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MEMBERS OF THE GROUP<br />

No Name Address<br />

4 Mr Colin W <strong>Plant</strong> 14 West Road, Bishops Stortford, Herts CM23 3QP<br />

E-mail: cpauk1@ntlworld.com<br />

6 Mr Michael <strong>Plant</strong> The Coach House, Monyash Road, Bakewell,<br />

Derbyshire, DE45 1FG<br />

E-mail: plant.inbakewell@btopenworld.com<br />

10 Mrs Pamela <strong>Plant</strong> London<br />

16 Mrs E C Reed 31 Walton Gardens, Codsall, Wolverhampton<br />

WV8 1AH<br />

18 Mr Peter Johnson 57 Helston Close, Brookvale, Runcorn WA7 6AA<br />

20 Mr Anthony David <strong>Plant</strong> 53 Green Curve, Banstead, Surrey, SM7 1NS<br />

E-mail: davidandjean@waitrose.com<br />

29 Mrs Shirley Hughes 14 Criss Grove, Chalfont St Peter, Bucks. SL9 9HG<br />

E-mail: sdhughes@btinternet.com<br />

32 Mrs Catherine Sproston Birtles Lodge, Chelford Road, Birtles, Nr Macclesfield,<br />

Cheshire.<br />

E-mail: joca@sprostonsk10.freeserve.co.uk<br />

37 Mr Patrick Pearson Valrublen, Bowl Corner, Battisford, Stowmarket,<br />

Suffolk IP14 2LH<br />

E-mail: pjattyc@aol.com<br />

38 Mrs Sian <strong>Plant</strong> 12 Dalmeny Road, New Barnet, Herts, EN5 1DE<br />

E-mail: davidandsianplant@ticscali.co.uk<br />

� “ “ Sian@plant.world-on-line.co.uk<br />

45 Mr David Johnson PO Box 4059, Tinana Queensland, 4650, Australia.<br />

E-mail: rosemary@deadrelos.com<br />

47 Mrs Stella Robson Mill View, Great Whittington, Newcastle-upon-Tyne,<br />

NE19 2HP<br />

52 Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> Computer Centre, University of Keele, Staffs. ST5 5BG<br />

E-mail: j.s.plant@keele.ac.uk<br />

59 Mr Nigel Burroughs 45 Farleigh Fields, Orton Wistow, Peterborough, PE2 6YB<br />

E-mail: Nigel@burroughs.eclipse.co.uk<br />

69 Mr Andrew <strong>Plant</strong> 36 Second Street, Watling Bungalows, Leadgate,<br />

Co Durham.<br />

E-mail: Andrew@plant115.freeserve.co.uk<br />

71 Mr G Brian <strong>Plant</strong> 54 Bean Leach Drive, Offerton, Stockport, Cheshire.<br />

SK2 5HZ<br />

74 Mrs Alice Doreen Mercer 11 Stewart Place, Barrack Heights, New South Wales,<br />

Australia. 2528<br />

� E-mail: ambermec@bigpond.com.au<br />

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75 Mr Michael John <strong>Plant</strong> Crown Hill House, Worcester Road, Newnham Bridge,<br />

Tenbury Wells, Worcs. WR15 8JA<br />

E-mail: wow plant@yahoo.com<br />

85 Mr John E Ransley 14 Rosary Crescent, Highgate Hill, 4101 Queensland<br />

Australia<br />

� E-mail: jeransley@bigpond.com<br />

89 Mrs Estelle Nobles 73 Downside Close, Bladford Forum, Dorset.<br />

DT11 7SD<br />

E-mail: clivestella@aol.com<br />

90 Mrs M R Lake 16 Western Avenue, Felixtowe, Suffolk. IP11 9SB<br />

E-mail: mgtlake@aol.com<br />

95 Mrs Linda S Wheeler 2210 Larkspur Drive, Alpine, CA 91901, U S A<br />

E-mail: momkat9@cox.net<br />

98 Deanne Richards 4 West Road, Capel, Western Australia 6271<br />

� E-mail: jaxhar@westnet.com.au<br />

104 Mrs Liz <strong>Plant</strong> 12 Meadow Lane, Edenbridge, Kent, TN8 6HT<br />

#<br />

111 Mr Malc John <strong>Plant</strong> 38 Faithful Street, Benalla, Victoria 3672, Australia.<br />

113 Mrs Heather <strong>Plant</strong> 6 Peatmoss Street, Sunnybank Hills, Queensland, 4109,<br />

Australia.<br />

E-mail: heather.plant@bigpond.com<br />

114 Mr John RusselIngamellis Room 41, Resthaven, 336 Kensington Road, Leabrook,<br />

Adelaide, 5068, South Australia.<br />

116 Miss Joan <strong>Plant</strong> 12 Grenadier Street, N. Woolwich, London E16 2LP<br />

119 Mrs Florence <strong>Plant</strong> PO 192, Nagambie, Victoria 3608, Australia.<br />

E-mail: floplant@mcmedia.com.qu<br />

121 Kathy Compagno 855 Bates Avenue, El Cerrito, CA 94530, U.S.A.<br />

E-mail: kcompagno@hotmail.com<br />

122 Mrs Elizabeth A Messer Bearsden, 9 Pinehurst Ave., Mudeford, Christchurch,<br />

Dorset, BH23 3NS<br />

E-mail: liz.messer@homeuser.net<br />

123 Dr Andrew Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> The Spinney, Hill Top, Beaulieu, Brockenhurst,<br />

Hants, SO42 7YR<br />

124 Mr Alan <strong>Plant</strong> 1 Templar Terrace, Porthill, Newcastle, Staffs. ST5 8PN<br />

127 Mr William T <strong>Plant</strong> 298 Newhampton Road West, Wolverhampton,<br />

West Midlands WV6 0RS<br />

131 Mrs Jean Walpole 40 Frederick Rd., Cheam, Surrey, SM1 2HR<br />

E-mail: hockey@blueyonder.co.uk<br />

132 Miss Linda Wilks 127 Western Road, Mickleover, Derby, DE3 9GR<br />

E-mail: Linda@lindawilks.fsnet.co.uk<br />

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138 Mrs Jean D Ray 124 Lyth Hill Road, Bayston Hill, Shropshire, SY3 0AT<br />

E-mail: westlyth@yahoo.co.uk<br />

139 Mrs Judith Kirkby 53 Mersea Avenue, West Mersea, Colchester, Essex.<br />

CO5 8JL<br />

140 Mrs J Bateman 52 George Frederick Road, Sutton Coldfield,<br />

West Midlands B73 6TD<br />

E-mail: ianjennybateman@blueyonder.co.uk<br />

141 Mr Malcolm Revell 22 Melton Road, North Ferriby, East Yorkshire.<br />

HU14 3ET<br />

E-mail: mal.revell@tiscali.co.uk<br />

143 Miss Freda Lawrence ‘Brades’ Lower Penkridge Road, Acton<br />

Trussell, Stafford, ST17 0RJ<br />

E-mail: freda@Lawrence3377.fsnet.co.uk<br />

145 Mr Graham Wingfield <strong>34</strong> Hereford Road, Harpur Hill, Buxton,<br />

Derbyshire. SR17 9PG<br />

E-mail: Graham@grahamWingfield.Wanadoo.co.uk<br />

147 Mr John Ronald <strong>Plant</strong> 49 Bourke Avenue, Yattalunga, NSW 2251, Australia.<br />

E-mail: ronp@tac.com.au<br />

153 Mrs Frances <strong>Plant</strong> 80 Buxton Cres., Sutton, Surrey, SM3 9TP<br />

E-mail: fplant@bigfoot.com<br />

162 Aloa Dereta 81 North 3100 West, Layton UT 84041, USA<br />

� E-mail: aloaandnicholas@yahoo.com<br />

165 Mrs Gillian Jenkins 42 Edgemont Road, Weston Favell, Northampton,<br />

NN3 3PQ<br />

E-mail: jenkins42@supanet.com<br />

167 Mrs M J <strong>Plant</strong> 204 Dunkery Road, London SE9 4HP<br />

168 Mr Philip <strong>Plant</strong> 33 The Dawneys, Crudwell, Wilts. SN16 9HE<br />

E-mail: pplant@mail.com<br />

169 Mrs Hazel M Morgan The Woodlands, 7 Rose Avenue, Alvechurch,<br />

Nr Birmingham. B48 7PG<br />

E-mail: hmorgan@merridew-media.co.uk<br />

174 Mrs Fay Bielewiez 63 Allen Road, Nanango, Queensland 4615, Australia.<br />

E-mail: osprey1@optusnet.com.au<br />

177 Mr Earl John Davis 27 Boucher Road, Leek, Staffs ST13 7JH<br />

E-mail: earljdavis@aol.com<br />

178 Mr Anthony W Brown Façade, Tinkers Alley, 42A High St., Sharnbrook,<br />

Bedford, MK44 1PF<br />

e-mail: galymorton@tiscali.co.uk<br />

179 Mrs Dorian G Greenbaum 27 Pill Hill Lane, Duxbury, MA 02332 USA<br />

E-mail: astrology@aurumtel.com<br />

(also temporary address) – Flat 215, Albany House, 41 Judd Street,<br />

Bleamsbury. London, WC1H 9QS<br />

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181 Mr Jack <strong>Plant</strong> 35 Oakdene, Cottingham, East Yorkshire. HU16 5AS<br />

E-mail: jp@barcot.karcoo.co.uk<br />

182 Linda <strong>Plant</strong> Wagoner 11 Millbrook Avenue, Dover, New Jersey 07801 USA<br />

E-mail: mydewey@gmail.com<br />

183 Mr Chris <strong>Plant</strong> 12 Whytecliffe Pde, Woody Point, Queensland 4019<br />

Australia<br />

E-mail: chrisplant10@hotmail.com<br />

186 Mr Bill Lowe 21 Katoomba Road, Beaumont, South Australia 5066<br />

Australia.<br />

187 Dr Ruth Young 11 Douglas St., Ramsbottom, Bury, BL0 9HB<br />

E-mail: ruth.young@kcl.ac.uk<br />

189 Mrs Nanette Pafumi Clos-Joli, 1321 Arnex-sur-orbe, Switzerland.<br />

E-mail: pafclosjoli@hotmail,.com<br />

194 Mrs Ann Wilkinson Hawthorn Cottage, Oak Lane, Treflach, Oswestry<br />

SY10 9HE<br />

E-mail: aewilkinson@tiscali.co.uk<br />

195 Mr David <strong>Plant</strong> 41 Graiseley Court, Hallat Dr., Graiseley ,<br />

� Wolverhampton, WV3 ONT<br />

199 Mrs Judith Wilkinson 26 Meadow Gardens, Beccles, Suffolk,<br />

NR<strong>34</strong> 9PA<br />

E-mail: scorpio.2zero@virgin.net<br />

201 Mr Ronnie <strong>Plant</strong> 15 York Street, Leek, Staffs. ST13 6JE<br />

E-mail: ronnieplant@aol.com<br />

202 Mrs Audrey Hunt 16 Chalford, Northcroft, Woodburn Green,<br />

High Wycombe, Bucks, HP10 0BS<br />

E-mail: huntaudrey@aol.com<br />

203 Mrs Shirley Goodall 49 Reservoir Road, Shobnall, Burton-on-Trent,<br />

Staffs, DE14 2BP<br />

E-mail: Shirley-goodall@virgin.net<br />

205 Mrs Christine Milner Paddock Farm, Swythomley, Macclesfield,<br />

Cheshire, SK11 0RF<br />

207 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> 17 St Margaret’s Close, Cottingham, HU16 5NG<br />

E-mail: Johnplant@plant.karoo.co.uk<br />

210 Mrs Andrea Bone Sawmill Cottage, Marholm, Peterborough, Cambs,<br />

PE6 7HZ<br />

E-mail: bones@sawmill91.freeserve.co.uk<br />

212 Mrs Rosalie G Kneller Summer House, Ilsington, Devon, TQ13 9RE<br />

E-mail: rosalie98.kneller@tesco.net<br />

213 Mr Kenneth T <strong>Plant</strong> 1 St Martins Close, Stamford, Lincs, PE9 2NF<br />

216 Mrs Jennifer <strong>Plant</strong> 45 Teme Road., Cradley, Halesowen, West Midlands,<br />

B63 2LY<br />

E-mail: Jenicay@hotmail.com<br />

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217 Mrs Sylvia Wells 16 Third Ave., Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 4EY<br />

E-mail: Wellsies@whsmithnet.co.uk<br />

218 Mr Walter F <strong>Plant</strong> 33 Cheltenham Road, Evesham, WR11 1LA<br />

E-mail: walterfplant@msn.com<br />

219 Mr Michael <strong>Plant</strong> 57 Brocklehurst Ave., Sheffield, S8 8JF<br />

E-mail: mikeplantsheffield@hotmail.com<br />

220 Mr Mark Ernest <strong>Plant</strong> 13 Bedford Road, Firswood, Manchester M16 OJB<br />

E-mail: mark.plant1@tesco.net<br />

221 Mrs Sue Tudor Millennium Cottage, 48 Kyl Caber Parc,<br />

Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, PL17 8PH<br />

E-mail: susan.tudor@tesco.net<br />

223 Mr Colin H <strong>Plant</strong> 26 Manor Road, Wendover, Aylesbury, Bucks.,<br />

HP22 6HN<br />

E-mail: colinplant@totalise.co.uk<br />

224 Mrs Kathleen Bean 15 Owington Grove, Billingham, Stockton-on-Tees,<br />

TS23 3LX<br />

E-mail: Faba.1@ntlworld.com<br />

225 Mr Richard A <strong>Plant</strong> 79 Caledonia St., Scarborough, North Yorks.,<br />

YO12 7DP<br />

E-mail: Richard.a.plant@gmail.com<br />

226 Mrs Valerie Hall Moorhill, Granby Road, Bradwell, Hope Valley<br />

S33 9HU<br />

E-mail: valerie.hall@virgin.net<br />

228 Irene <strong>Plant</strong> Berger 63 Candlewood Shores Rd., Brookfield, CT 06804,<br />

USA<br />

E-mail: jberger9830@charter.net<br />

229 Mr Benjamin John <strong>Plant</strong> Hilbre House, 24 Ringland Rd., Taverham, Norfolk,<br />

NR8 6TG<br />

E-mail: bjrvplant-@tiscali.co.uk<br />

231 Mrs Doris Howorth 9 Sandbank Gardens, Whitworth, Rochdale, OL12 8BH<br />

E-mail: doris@dhoworth.wanadoo.co.uk<br />

232 Mrs Michele Watson Pine Lodge, Steventon End, Ashdon, Essex, CB10 2JE<br />

E-mail: mail@pinelodge.me.uk<br />

233 Professor Dennis Wood 12 Selly Wick Drive, Selly Park, Birmingham, B29 7JH<br />

E-mail: denniswood@blueyonder.co.uk<br />

235 Rev d Cyril D Blount 92 Weather Hill Road, Huddersfield, HD3 3LD<br />

E-mail: CyBlount@aol.com<br />

236 Mr Charles Paulton <strong>Plant</strong> 4049 West 36 th Avenue, Vancouver, BC,<br />

Canada, V6N 2T1<br />

E-mail: cplant@dowco.com<br />

240 Col. Mike Walker Hannstead House, Richmond Road, Sherborne, Dorset,<br />

DT9 3HL<br />

E-mail: mp-pjwalker@hannstead.freeserve.co.uk<br />

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241 Mrs Nicole Lankester 67 Regent Road, Brightlingsea, Essex, CO7 0NN<br />

E-mail: NickyLankester@aol.com<br />

243 Mr Peter Robert <strong>Plant</strong> 23 Mill Rd., Holyhead, Isle of Anglesey, LL65 2TA<br />

E-mail: <strong>Plant</strong>sProperty@AOL.com<br />

244 Mrs Sydney Anne Holt 3913 S Oak St, Tempe, AZ 85282-5753 USA<br />

E-mail: SGHolt@Cox.net<br />

245 Mr Frederick Ernest <strong>Plant</strong> 60 Kenmore Rd., Whitefield, Manchester, Lancs M45 8FS<br />

E-mail: fred_plant@fsmail.net<br />

249 Mr Richard George <strong>Plant</strong> 9 Relesah Drive, Ningi, Queensland, 4511, Australia<br />

E-mail: Richard.plant@bigpond.com<br />

250 Ms Linda Brice 24 The Parade, Church Village. Pontypridd, Rhondda Cynon Taff,<br />

Mid Glamorgan, CF38 1BU<br />

E-mail: Linda.brice1@btopenworld.com<br />

251 Mr Ian <strong>Plant</strong> 5 Avonview Park, Oxford Road, Ryton on Dunsmore,<br />

Warwickshire, CV8 3EB<br />

E-mail: i-plant@hotmail.com<br />

252 Mr Christopher Johnson 4 Chestnut Vale, Mollington, Banbury, OX17 1AW<br />

E-mail: chris.johnson06@tiscali.co.uk<br />

253 Mr David Capes 8 Wakerley Road, Scotter, Gainsborough, Lincs, DN21 3TD<br />

E-mail: david@capes6wanadoo.co.uk<br />

254 Mr Duncan Jones 10 Oak Street, Belle Vue, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, SY3 7RH<br />

E-mail: duncanjones@hortech.co.uk<br />

255 Mrs Linda Mockford 8 Kennet Close, Henley Green, Coventry, CV2 1QS<br />

E-mail: lindawilson18@yahoo.co.uk<br />

256 Mr Matthew <strong>Plant</strong> 17 Edlingham Close, South Gosforth, Newcastle, NE3 1RH<br />

E-mail: matt.plant@hotmail.co.uk<br />

257 Mr Michael Perkins 4 Churchill Drive, Amblecote, Strourbridge,<br />

West Midlands, DY8 4JS<br />

E-mail: mikeperkins4@blueyonder.co.uk<br />

258 Tina Charlesworth 1 Ponker Nook Lane, Skelmanthorpe, Huddersfield,<br />

Yorkshire, HD8 9AJ<br />

E-mail: dipseytocat@hotmail.co.uk<br />

� 259 Mrs Frances Upson 16 Granton Rd., Chapel Allerton, Leeds, LS7 3LZ<br />

E-mail: franupson@bigkmp.org<br />

� 260 Mrs Florence M Crayton 3 Brathay Close, Cheyesmore, Coventry, CR3 5PR<br />

E-mail: famtreem@aol.com<br />

� 261 Prof. Richard E <strong>Plant</strong> 803 Kestrel Place, Davis, CA 95616, USA<br />

E-mail: replant@ucdavis.edu<br />

� 262 Mr David <strong>Plant</strong> 109 Queens Court, Ramsey, Isle of Man, IM8 ILQ<br />

E-mail: Dougie7@hotmail.com<br />

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� 263 Ms Sharon Morton PH3 – 11 Margaret Ave., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada, N2H 6M4<br />

� = New Member<br />

� = Change of address or e-mail address.<br />

# Rejoined<br />

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MEMBERS INTERESTS<br />

Membership Interest<br />

No Name<br />

4 Mr Colin W <strong>Plant</strong> 19c North Staffordshire/<br />

6 Mr Michael <strong>Plant</strong> Any period South Staffs/North Worcs/<br />

10 Mrs Pamela <strong>Plant</strong> e19c Stockport Cheshire/<br />

16 Mrs C Reed L18c e19c North Staffordshire/<br />

18 Mr Peter Johnson L19c Manchester Lancs/19c Mid Cheshire/<br />

20 Mr David <strong>Plant</strong> Pre 19c Clowne Derby/19c Doncaster Yorks/<br />

19c Notts./ 19c Cheltenham Glos/<br />

29 Mrs Shirley Hughes L17c + 18c Rowley Regis Worcs/19c Dudley<br />

Worcs/L19c Sydney Australia/<br />

32 Mrs Catherine Sproston Any Period Cheshire/<br />

37 Mr Patrick Pearson Any period Stockport Cheshire/<br />

38 Mrs Sian <strong>Plant</strong> e19c Denton Lancs/19c Leicester/<br />

20c Rounds Northants/<br />

45 Mr David Johnson 19c Kidsgrove/<br />

47 Mrs S Robson General/<br />

52 Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Sheffield Yorks/e19c Clowne<br />

Derbyshire/<br />

59 Mr Nigel Burroughs L18c 19c Burslem + Longton Staffs/<br />

69 Mr Andrew <strong>Plant</strong> M18c + M19c Little Bowden and Market<br />

Harborough/19c London<br />

71 Mr G Brian <strong>Plant</strong> Any period Cheshire/<br />

74 Mrs Alice D Mercer 19c Leicester/L19c Nottingham/<br />

75 Mr M J <strong>Plant</strong> e19c Shropshire/e19c Cheadle Hulme<br />

Cheshire/<br />

85 Mr John E Ransley 18c & 19c Staffs/<br />

89 Mrs Estella Nobles Any period Fenton + Cheadle + Longton<br />

Staffs/<br />

90 Mrs M R Lake m18c Suffolk/<br />

95 Linda Shields Wheeler pre 1700 Staffs/Cheshire/John <strong>Plant</strong><br />

(emigrant)from UK to US/<br />

98 Deanne Richards 19c Eckington Derbyshire/Sheffield<br />

(Brightside)/<br />

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104 Mrs Liz <strong>Plant</strong> 17c + 18c + e19c Wolverhampton<br />

111 Mr Malc John <strong>Plant</strong> Any period Sibsey Lincs/<br />

113 Mrs Heather <strong>Plant</strong> Pre 1850 Herts, (Hertford, Stapleford & Saccabc)/<br />

114 Mr John Russel Ingamellis 18c Lincs/<br />

116 Miss Joan <strong>Plant</strong> e19c Bristol/<br />

119 Mrs Florence <strong>Plant</strong> L19c Staffordshire/<br />

121 Kathy Compagno 19c West Bromwich + Walsall, Staffs/<br />

L18c + e19c Brierley Hill/ e 18c Old Swinford<br />

122 Elizabeth Messer L19c Cheadle Staffs/<br />

123 Dr Andrew Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> 18c + 19c Northants/19c Rutland/19c Hants +<br />

Cambs/L19c + e20c Bedfordshire<br />

124 Mr Alan <strong>Plant</strong> General Staffordshire/<br />

127 Mr William T <strong>Plant</strong> 18c + e19c North Staffordshire/<br />

131 Mrs Jean Walpole m19c Wolverhampton Staffordshire/<br />

L19c Camberwell, Surrey/<br />

132 Miss Linda Wilks Any period Potteries, Staffordshire/<br />

138 Mrs Jean Ray 19c Sheffield<br />

139 Mrs Judith Kirkby Pre 1850 Macclesfield Ches/<br />

140 Mrs J Bateman Pre 1900 Staffs/pre1900 Worcs/Any period<br />

Dudley,Tipton Halesowen, Rowley Regis,<br />

Brierley Hill, Langley, Oldbury Cradley, West<br />

Bromwich, Smethwick/<br />

141 Mr Malcolm Revell 18 + 19c Burslem + Longton + Stoke on Trent<br />

Staffs/<br />

143 Miss Freda Lawrence Any period Bloxwich, Eccleshall, Norbury,<br />

Shallowford, Stoke-on-Trent, Stone Stoweby,<br />

Chortley, Swynnerton, Yarnfield (Earnfield),<br />

Staffs.<br />

145 Mr Graham Wingfield 19c Lower + Higher Whitley + Little Leigh,<br />

Cheshire/<br />

147 Mr John Ronald <strong>Plant</strong> Pre 1900 Stoke on Trent, Staffs/<br />

153 Mrs Frances <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Leek Staffs/<br />

162 Aloa Dereta Any Period pre 1860 Leek Staffs/<br />

m 19c Sheffield, Yorks/<br />

165 Mrs Gillian Jenkins m 19c Wolverhampton + West Bromwich,<br />

Staffs/<br />

167 Mrs M J <strong>Plant</strong> Any period Market Harborough,<br />

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Little Bowden, Great Bowden, Foxton,<br />

Leics/Sutton St. Edmund,<br />

Halbeach, Lincs/ Brighton Sussex/Haverhill,<br />

Suffolk/Battersea, London/<br />

168 Mr Philip <strong>Plant</strong> As for member 167 plus North Wiltshire/<br />

169 Mrs Hazel Morgan 19c Meerbrook, Grindon, Staffs/Ashbourne,<br />

Derby/<br />

174 Mrs Fay Bielewiez 18c Ches (Alsager)/19c North Staffs/<br />

177 Mr Earl John Davis Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

178 Mr Tony Brown e + m 19c Laxfield, Suffolk/ (see correspondence<br />

Journal 33)<br />

179 Mrs Dorian Greenbaum 18c + 19c Dudley/Kingswinford/Brierley Hill/<br />

181 Mr Jack <strong>Plant</strong> 19c South Yorks/North Derbyshire/<br />

182 Linda Wagoner Any period USA/Immigrants from<br />

UK to USA/<br />

183 Mr Chris <strong>Plant</strong> prc 1720 Leek/post 1720 Cheadle Staffs/<br />

186 Mr Bill Lowe 19c Birmingham/<br />

187 Dr Ruth Young 19c Castle Church, Stafford/ m19c Stone, Staffs/<br />

m19c Longton, Staffs/e19c Breuood, Staffs/<br />

189 Mrs Nanette Pafumi Any period Cheshire/<br />

194 Mrs Ann Wilkinson 19c Newport, Shropshire/<br />

195 Mr David <strong>Plant</strong> Any period West Midlands/18 + 19c Dudley +<br />

Brewood, Staffs/<br />

199 Mrs Judith Wilkinson 18 + 19c Dudley, Tipton, Halesowen, Rowley<br />

Regis, Brierley Hill, Langley, Cradley, West<br />

Bromwich/<br />

201 Mr Ronnie <strong>Plant</strong> L19c Dudley South Staffs/<br />

202 Mrs Audrey Hunt 18 + 19 + 20c Castle Church, Castletown,<br />

Forebridge, Queensvill, Staffs/<br />

203 Mrs Shirley Goodall 19c Appleby Magna, Leics/<br />

20c Burton-on-Trent, Staffs/<br />

205 Mrs Christine Milner 19c Stockport (<strong>Plant</strong>s Hat Block Co)/<br />

207 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> Lincolnshire/<br />

210 Mrs Andrea Bone L19c Peterborough Cambs/<br />

212 Mrs Rosalie Knellar 19c Liverpool/Bradford/West Bromwich,<br />

Staffs/Warwick/Handsworth, Staffs/<br />

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213 Mr Kenneth <strong>Plant</strong> 18c + 19c South East, Leicestershire + Rutland<br />

Border/<br />

216 Mrs Jennifer <strong>Plant</strong> 18c + 19c ‘Black Country’/<br />

217 Ms Sylvia Wells 19c Market Harborough/London area/<br />

218 Mr Walter Frederick <strong>Plant</strong> Woodthorpe, Nr Chesterfield/Woodthorpe,<br />

Nr Loughborough/<br />

219 Mr Michael <strong>Plant</strong> M + L 18c Sheffield/M + L 18c NE Derbyshire<br />

220 Mr Mark Ernest <strong>Plant</strong> L19c Manchester, Lancs/Staffs?<br />

221 Mrs Sue Tudor RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> + Company (Pottery)/<br />

223 Mr Colin H <strong>Plant</strong> William <strong>Plant</strong> 17c/early 19c Hundleigh, Lincs/<br />

L18 + E19c Hundleby, Lincs/<br />

224 Mrs Kathleen Bean 17c Grinton North Yorks/19c Cassop,<br />

Co Durham/<br />

225 Mr Richard <strong>Plant</strong> L19c Lincs/<br />

226 Mrs Valerie Hall 18c Derbyshire (Hope, Bakewell,Hartington/<br />

18c Cheshire (Macclesfield, Taxal)/18c Staffs<br />

(Leek, Alstonfield)/<br />

228 Irene <strong>Plant</strong> Berger 19c Birmingham/<br />

229 Mr Benjamin John <strong>Plant</strong> 18 + 19c Lichfield, Staffs/19c Liverpool,<br />

Lancs/<br />

231 Mrs Doris Howorth 18c + e 19c Manchester/17c & 18c<br />

Frodsham & Gt Budworth, Ches/<br />

232 Mrs Michele Watson m19c Duckmanton, Derbyshire/L19c + 20c<br />

Australia (Melbourne)/<br />

233 Professor Dennis Wood 17c to 20c Rowley Regis + Oldbury/<br />

235 Rev d Cyril D Blount m 19c Cheadle, Staffs (James <strong>Plant</strong>)/<br />

236 Mr Charles Paulton <strong>Plant</strong> L 19c e 20c Wolverhampton (Charles Poulton<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>)/L 18c Brewood, Staffs/ 20c Canada<br />

240 Col. Mike Walker 19c + 20c Longton Staffs (Samuel Lucas <strong>Plant</strong><br />

+ Frederick Sutton <strong>Plant</strong>) RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> & Co/<br />

241 Mrs Nicole Lankester 18c + 19c + 20c Preston, Ashton-on-Ribble,<br />

Poulton-le-Fylde (<strong>Plant</strong> Solicitors) Lancs/<br />

243 Mr Peter Robert <strong>Plant</strong> E19c Tittesworth + Ipstones, Staff/<br />

244 Mrs Sydney Anne Holt M19c Hanley, Staffs/L19c Stoke, Staffs/<br />

245 Mr Frederick Ernest <strong>Plant</strong> 20c Lower Broughton, Salford, Lancs/<br />

249 Mr Richard George <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Sibsey, Lincs/<br />

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250 Ms Linda Brice L19c Wakefield, Pontefact, Purston, Yorkshire/m19c<br />

Gresley, Derby/m19c Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

251 Mr Ian <strong>Plant</strong> m19c Sedgley, Staffs/19c Bilston, Bradley, Staffs/<br />

M19c Calderbank, Scotland/<br />

252 Mr Christopher Johnson L19c e18c Edensor, Derby/m17c Bakewell, Derby/<br />

253 Mr David Copes 18c + 19c Harthill + South Auston + Rotherham, Yorks/<br />

254 Mr Duncan Jones 19c Sheffield, Yorks/e19c Adwick on Dearn, Yorks/<br />

E20c Manchester, Lancs/L19c Bristol/<br />

255 Mrs Linda Mockford L19c Dudley, South Staffs/<br />

256 Mr Matthew <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Eccleshall + Bierlow + Sheffield, Yorks/<br />

257 Mr Michael Perkins All periods, Black Country/<br />

258 Tina Charlesworth 18c + 19c Rotherham, Ardwick-upon-Dearne, Yorks/<br />

259 Mrs Franses Upson 19c Burton-on-Trent + Croxton + Great Haywood,<br />

Staffs/<br />

260 Mrs Florence M Crayton l18c Halesowen, Worcs/19c Dudley, Worcs/<br />

19c Rowley Regis, Staffs/<br />

(Descendants of John <strong>Plant</strong> bc 1792 Halesowen)<br />

261 Prof Richard E <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Birmingham (Edward <strong>Plant</strong> bn c1787)<br />

262 Mr David <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Billingham, Deepfields, Penkridge, Staffs/<br />

263 Ms Sharon Morton 19c Longton, Staffs –<br />

(Descendants of Charles Myatt <strong>Plant</strong> & Elizabeth Hill)<br />

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PAST MEMBERS INTERESTS<br />

If you wish to contact any of these past members please contact me and I will forward the last known<br />

address and any relevant information.<br />

Member No. Name Areas of Interest<br />

1 Miss Linda Lowrey e19c Macclesfield, Cheshire/m19c Hollingwood-Darwen,<br />

Lancs/<br />

2 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> General<br />

3 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> Any period Market Harborough + Bristol/<br />

5 Mrs Mary Stone m19c Altrincham, Cheshire/<br />

7 Mrs C M O’Donoran e19c Gnosall, Staffs/m19c Bloxwich, Staffs/<br />

8 Mrs M Froggatt research being carried out by Member No. 7/<br />

9 Mrs Doris Nicholas e19c Shropshire/e19c Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire/<br />

11 Mrs B Jones L18c Clowne, Derby/e19c Stavely, Derby/m19c<br />

Halton Leeds, Yorks/<br />

12 Mrs Lois Webb e19c Macclesfield Cheshire/m19c<br />

Hollingwood + Darwen Lancs/<br />

13 Ms Helen Hill e19c Ayrshire/m19c Rowley Regis, Staffs/<br />

L19c Cradley, Staffs/<br />

14 Rev. D A Jackson 18c 19c Ashton, Lancs/19c Dukinfield, Lancs/<br />

e19c Mottram, Cheshire/e19c Stockport, Cheshire/<br />

18c Blakley, Lancs/18c Manchester, Lancs/<br />

15 Mrs Winifred Stuart Any period Cheshire/<br />

21 Mr A Fowler m19c Lichfield, Staffs/Any period Liverpool/<br />

22 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

23 Mrs J Wallace 18c Nottingham/m19c London/m19c New Zealand/<br />

20c Australia/<br />

24 Mr George <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Rushton Biddulph, Norton, Staffs/<br />

25 Elvin U <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Holmes Chapel, Cheshire/<br />

26 Ms Janis Kirby m19c Willenhall, Staffs/L19c Manchester/<br />

e19c Wellington, Shropshire<br />

27 Mrs P E Ormerod e19c Sandbach, Cheshire/m19c Church Hulme,<br />

Cheshire/<br />

28 Susan Mackay L19c Derbyshire/<br />

30 Mrs C L <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

31 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> Harthan Any period Elworth Hall, Cheshire/<br />

33 Miss Aileen <strong>Plant</strong> 17c 18c 19c Stockport, Chyeshire/<br />

<strong>34</strong> Mrs S R Hough e19c Biddulph, Staffs/<br />

35 Mr Arnold <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

36 Mr Graeme R <strong>Plant</strong> m19c Sibsey, Lincoln/Any period Australia/<br />

39 Mr & Mrs Gordon H Vick 19c Clowne, Derby/19c Staveley, Derby/<br />

L19c Halifax, Yorks/<br />

40 Mrs Jean McDonald m19c Wolverhampton, Staffs/L17c + 18c<br />

Rowley Regis, Worcs/19c Dudley, Worcs/<br />

41 Val Edmonds m19c Stepney + Limehouse, Middlesex/<br />

42 Mr John Roberts Any period Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

43 Mrs J A Stebbing m19c London<br />

46 J H <strong>Plant</strong> L18c 19c Longton, Staffs/any period RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> Ltd/<br />

48 Mrs S Allan General/<br />

49 Mrs Elizabeth Bass General/<br />

50 Mrs Jean <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

51 Mr Gerald <strong>Plant</strong> m19c Goostrey, Cheshire/L19c e20c Salford, Lancs/<br />

53 Mrs P L Pritchard Any period Clowne, Derbyshire/<br />

54 W <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

55 Mr Brian David Burton e19c Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

56 Frances M J Westwood Any period Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

57 Mrs Shipley Any period Kidsgrove/<br />

58 B S <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

60 Mrs R Terry 19c Burslem + Longton, Staffs/any period<br />

RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> Ltd/<br />

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61 Mr G <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

62 Mrs M Upton General/<br />

63 Ian Brindley General/<br />

64 Albert Edward <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

65 Mr D J <strong>Plant</strong> Any Period Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

66 Sandra Cuming L19c Wandsworth, London/e19c Leicester/<br />

20c Australia/<br />

67 Mrs J Bastom m19c Astbury, Cheshire/m19c Biddulph, Staffs/<br />

68 Mr W Perry 18c Congleton + Prestbury, Cheshire/<br />

70 Geoffrey W <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

72 William <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

73 Miss F A Curtis General/<br />

76 Mrs M A Powell e19c Shropshire/e19c Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire/<br />

77 Mr G J Thomas e19c Shropshire/e19c Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire/<br />

78 Mr D W <strong>Plant</strong> e19c Shropshire/e19c Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire/<br />

79 Mr E G B Powell Any period Leicestershire/<br />

80 Miss J Nicholas e19c Shropshire/e19c Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire/<br />

81 Mr Richard S <strong>Plant</strong> Any period Staffordshire/RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> Ltd/<br />

82 Mr John <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

83 Miss Kathleen <strong>Plant</strong> L19c Hyde, Cheshire/<br />

84 Mrs Shirley Connaghan 19c Long Crendon, Buckingham/20c Australia/<br />

86 Miss Karen Miller m19c Fradswell + Colwich + Weston, Staffs/<br />

87 Mrs Esmae M Davies Any period Staffordshire/RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> Ltd/<br />

88 Mr John Ackroyd 19c Birmingham/<strong>Plant</strong> + Green Ltd/<br />

91 Mr Fred Faulkner Any period Yarnfield + Stafford/<br />

92 Mrs Kathleen Turner Any period North Staffs/<br />

93 Cordelia R L Shields 17c Stafford/any period Connecticut USA/<br />

94 Mr Ross <strong>Plant</strong> m19c County Cavin, Ireland/<br />

96 Mrs Yvonne May 19c Syston + Loughborough + Desford +<br />

Rotheby, Leicester/<br />

97 Mrs Margaret Walker 19c Dudley + Rowley Regis, Staffs/<br />

99 Bryan Charles <strong>Plant</strong> m19c Kent/<br />

100 Lauren Essex 17c Stafford/General/<br />

101 Mrs P Handley 19c Gnosall, Staffs/<br />

102 Mr S R Fowler 17c + 18c + 19c Lichfield, Staffs/m19c Liverpool/<br />

103 Mrs Janine Oliver L19c Shelton, Staffs/<br />

105 William John <strong>Plant</strong> m19c Kent/<br />

106 Mrs Isabel McQuoid L19c Leeds/<br />

107 Mrs Joan E Pebbles 18c + 19c Suffolk/<br />

108 Stella Kornfein L 19c Wisbech Cambs/L 19c Battersea London/<br />

109 Caryn <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

110 Myrtle L Reid L19c + e20c Darlaston + Walsall + West Bromwich,<br />

Staffs/<br />

112 Mrs Helen Seamer 19c Willenhall, Staffs/<br />

115 Mrs Pat Herring e19c Ashley, Staffs/L19c Wheelock, Cheshire<br />

117 Mrs Lana J Fox e19c Ontario, Canada/<br />

118 Eileen <strong>Plant</strong> e19c Calais Maine, USA/<br />

120 Mr L Edwin Clements Leicestershire/<br />

125 Mr Ronald George <strong>Plant</strong> e20c Rugeley Staffordshire/<br />

126 Mr Bryan Alvey 17c Bakewell + Youlgreave, Derbyshire/<br />

128 Mr Robert Harry <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Gnosall, Staffordshire/20c Saskatchewan,<br />

Canada/<br />

129 Mrs Denise North 19c West Midlands/<br />

130 Mr Tom <strong>Plant</strong> TBA<br />

133 Mr Nick Dykes Any period RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> Ltd/<br />

1<strong>34</strong> Mrs Hillary Bell 19c Haslington, Cheshire/<br />

135 Helen <strong>Plant</strong> Pre 1828 Hanley, Staffs/<br />

136 Mrs Joyce E Shaw Pre 1881 Leek, Staffs/1881 onwards Manchester +<br />

Salford/<br />

142 Mr Hugh Middleton 20c Islington/<br />

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144 Mr Ron <strong>Plant</strong> General/<br />

146 Miss J A Rigby Pre 1900 Stoke on Trent, Staffs/<br />

148 Miss Mgt. M Scholefield e19c Leek, Staffs/<br />

149 John Farmer <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Birmingham/<br />

150 Mr Stephen Ward 19c Leek, Staffs/<br />

151 Miss Tessa Pilsbury 18c + 19c Congleton, Cheshire/18 + 19c Horton + Leek,<br />

Staffs/<br />

152 Mrs Alma Joan Malpass 19c Sheffield/<br />

154 Mrs Susan E Woods 19c Staffs/<br />

155 Mrs Betty Pyman 3 20c Guildford, Surrey/<br />

156 Christine M Page m 19c York, Yorkshire/Army/<br />

157 Mr Nicholas J Homes L 19c London/<br />

158 Miss Kerry Ann Cooke L19c West Bromwich/Barnsley, Yorks/<br />

159 Mrs Pat Galloway Any period, Shropshire/<br />

160 Mrs Beverley Dronjak 19c Staffs/Pottery/<br />

161 Mr Antony C H Farnath 19c 20c Black Country, West Midlands/<br />

163 Mrs Joyce Thomas m 18c L19c Lillishall, Staffs?<br />

m 19c L19c Newport, Shropshire<br />

164 Miss Evelyn M Pitts L 19c Barrow, Lancs/m19c Cradley Heath, Staffs/<br />

166 Mrs Margaret Insley m19c Hulme, Lancs/L19c + 20c Australia (Victoria)/<br />

170 Mrs Sharon Marie Walsh 18c + 19c Holmes Chapel, Sandbach, Knutsford,<br />

Cheshire/<br />

171 Mr Bradd Scott e19c Peterborough/m19c Wilstshire + Devon<br />

172 Janice Wilson m 19c Staffordshire/<br />

173 Mr John Riley L18c + 19c Clowne Derbyshire/Harthill +<br />

Anston Yorks/<br />

175 Mr Alan Farthing<br />

176 Mr Nick Shelley 19c Cheshire/<br />

180 Valeria London 19c Potteries/<br />

184 Dr Sarah-Jane <strong>Plant</strong> South Staffs/Shropshire/<br />

185 Mr Wayne Titmus 19c Wolverhampton + Black Country<br />

188 Jeen M Ruff Any period France/Quebec, Canada/Minnesota, USA/<br />

190 Mr Richardd Sillitto 18c Hurdlow + Leek, Staffs/<br />

191 Mrs Frances Reeve 17 + 18 + 19c Cheadle, Staffs/<br />

192 Mr Dennis Booth 18 + 19c East Cheshire/North Staffs/<br />

193 Mr Raymond <strong>Plant</strong>e Any period Canada/<br />

196 Mrs Janet Padrazolla 18 + 19c Piddington, Oxford/18 + 19c Crendon, Bucks/<br />

197 Mr Frank J Robinson 19c Eastport, Maine, USA/<br />

198 Mr Patrick Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Suffolk<br />

200 Miss Simone <strong>Plant</strong> L18 + 19c Eccleshall, Staffs/<br />

204 Mrs Marion Szezesniak 19c Dudley, Worcs/<br />

206 Mrs Ann <strong>Plant</strong> 19c Staffs<br />

208 Mrs Celia Maoghon 19c Rowley Regis/<br />

209 Mr Stephen Bladon 19c Norfolk (Wheatacre)/Shropshire (Wellington + Iron<br />

bridge/Staffs (Cheadle) L19c Staffs (Newcastle)/<br />

211 Barbara <strong>Plant</strong> 17c Staffs/17c + 18c + 19c USA(Branford)<br />

214 Mrs Margaret Davell 18c + 19c Desford + Newbold, Verdon, Leics/<br />

215 Mrs Glenys Daniels 19c Burslem + Fenton + Corbridge + Stoke/<br />

222 Dr Dale Smith 18 + 19c North Staffs/19 + 20c USA/<br />

227 Miss Anne Massey 18 + 19c Black Country<br />

230 Mr Brian John Hunt Canning Pottery Co – Subsidiary Co of RH + SL <strong>Plant</strong> & Co.<br />

2<strong>34</strong> Mrs Connie Schick 19c Brierley Hill + Dudley + Old Swinford<br />

(Descendants of Wm <strong>Plant</strong> & Mary Ann Mound/)<br />

237 Mrs Yvonne Enid Wright L18c Eltoe19c Wassington + Caster, Northants/<br />

M19c Huntingdon, Cambs/20c Yoxford, Suffolk<br />

Gillingham, Kent<br />

238 Miss Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> Charndon, Bucks/Yorkshire/Lancashire<br />

239 Mr David Bartholomew e20c Macclesfield, Ches/<br />

242 Mr Mike Roberts 18c + 19c Dawley, New Works, Wellington, Shrop/<br />

246 Mrs Glenda Truman Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee,<br />

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USA/Early <strong>Plant</strong> settlers, USA/<br />

247 Mr Ron Ellis e18c Eyke + Marlesford, Suffolk/<br />

248 Mrs K Cosgrove 19c + 20c South Staffs<br />

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NEW MEMBERS<br />

Five new members since the last Journal was issued.<br />

No. 259 Mrs Frances Upson<br />

Frances is another with ancestors in Staffordshire, but this time in a different area of the county –<br />

Burton-on-Trent – as opposed to the Black Country and the Potteries where most of the Stafforshire<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>s lived in the 18 th & 18 th Centuries.<br />

She forwarded the following information:<br />

“I started my research with my father GEORGE FRANCIS PLANT, born in November 1908 in<br />

Burton-on-Trent, the youngest son of SAMUEL HENRY PLANT and Mercy Florence nee Wilson .<br />

SAMUEL HENRY was born in Tutbury, [WKP note – the adjoining parish to Burton] in November<br />

1872. Both George and Samuel Henry were employed for many years at Bass Worthington, breweries<br />

in Burton.<br />

It took me a long time to track down Samuel Henry’s parents as the 1881 Census doesn’t seem to have<br />

anyone matching that I can find. However, I did eventually discover SAMUE PLANT as his father and<br />

he has proved the most intriguing so far. SAMUEL HENRY was born to SAMUEL’s second wife,<br />

Mary, nee Rogers (from Uttoxeter). The marriage took place in April 1869. On his marriage<br />

certificate Samuel is given as a Police Officer (1) , 3 year’s .later on Samuel Henry’s birth certificate he is<br />

a Railway shunter and by the time of Samuel Henry’s marriage he is down as (deceased) journeyman<br />

baker. Quite a career change!<br />

I believe SAMUEL’s first wife was Susanna Dean, and they had 2 sons, John and Charles, born in<br />

1865 and 1867. The 1871 Census has Samuel and Mary (2 nd wife) with sons registered in Stone, parish<br />

of Croxton town of Fair Oaks – with John and Charles having been born in Great Haywood.<br />

On SAMUEL’s marriage certificate in 1869 his father is given as JAMES PLANT (deceased)<br />

shoemaker. I haven’t found SAMUEL’s birth but it could be c. February 1831 in Lichfield to James<br />

and Elizabeth. This could be Elizabeth Charlton m. Stone, but I am now in the realms of speculation<br />

and not evidence.<br />

I would be really delighted if you have any information that can tie any of this into existing research.<br />

And where were they in 1881?”<br />

1. The 1871 Census lists Samuel as a 1 st Class Police Officer, born Lichfield and aged 41.<br />

No. 260 Mrs Florence Crayton<br />

Another Black Country lady who contacted me as follows:<br />

“My GXG Grandparents were Bessey <strong>Plant</strong> and Thomas Cooper – Bessey’s father was<br />

Benjamin <strong>Plant</strong>. They came from Rowley Regis and Halesowen areas.”<br />

So I asked the ‘Black Country Sub <strong>Group</strong>’ for their assistance and they provided information relative to<br />

Florence’s family going back six generations to John <strong>Plant</strong> born c1792 in Halesowen.<br />

The main areas appear to be Halesowen early 19c, Rowley Regis late 19c and Dudley late 19c.<br />

If any other member thinks they may be connected to this family line, please contact me and I will post<br />

a copy of the information provided by the sub group.<br />

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No. 261 Prof. Richard E <strong>Plant</strong><br />

Richard is a second cousin of Irene Berger (Member No. 228) and a descendant of Edward <strong>Plant</strong> bn<br />

1787 in Birmingham.<br />

Journal No. 30 included a piece on this Edward, who was a Frying Pan maker married to Sarah? Their<br />

direct line included George, bt 1822, St Phillips, Birmingham m Sarah Littlewood 1844, Stephen<br />

Rawson <strong>Plant</strong> born 1854 Aston who m Eliza Buckler/Willatt in 1874, John Sydney <strong>Plant</strong> born 1877 m<br />

Florence Mary Baker 1904 New York, Sydney Herbert <strong>Plant</strong> born 1907, Leicester.<br />

Full details, including a number of photographs was included in Journal No. 30.<br />

No. 262 David <strong>Plant</strong><br />

Another Staffordshire connection; this time in the Penkridge/Deepfields, Billington area.<br />

Using the Census returns it was possible to establish that David’s grandfather, Joseph, was born 1889<br />

in Penkridge, Joseph’s father, (another Joseph) being born 1865 in Deepfields and marrying Mary<br />

c1888. A generation further back the 1881 Census shows a further Joseph born 1839 at Billington and<br />

in 1881 a Coal Agent.<br />

So using the information from the census returns it was possible to establish the following tree:<br />

Joseph P<br />

b 1839 Billington, Staffs<br />

m Jane c1864<br />

Francis E P b n 1867 Joseph P<br />

Arthur b n 1873 b 1865 Deepfields, Staffs<br />

Charles b n 1875 m Mary c 1888 (b1865)<br />

Harriet b n 1879<br />

Frederick b n 1881<br />

Joseph P Kathleen<br />

b 1889 Penkridge b 1899 Penkridge<br />

m Mirriam Stanley<br />

Stanley Joseph P<br />

b 1922<br />

m Hilda Kathleen Fradley<br />

No. 263 Sharon Morton<br />

Following a recent visit to Wales to research her father’s side of the family, Sharon found that her<br />

father’s mother was Gertrude Alexandrina Melson <strong>Plant</strong>, born 1 June 1866, the youngest child of<br />

Charles Myatt <strong>Plant</strong> and Elizabeth Hill.<br />

Gertrude’s siblings were:<br />

Julia b 1848 William b 1858<br />

Cicily b 1851 Rachel b 1859<br />

Emily b 1854 Alfred b 1862<br />

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Alfred appears to have moved to Cardiff as, according to the 1908 Trade Directory, he had a China<br />

Shop at 5 St John Square.<br />

According to the 1871 Census the family lived at Cabden St., Dresden, Longton, Staffs, the entry being<br />

as follows:<br />

Elizabeth <strong>Plant</strong> H M 46 Dressmaker bn Liverpool, Lancs<br />

Cicily <strong>Plant</strong> D U 19 Painter bn Longton, Staffs<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> S 14 bn Liverpool, Lancs<br />

Rachel <strong>Plant</strong> D 11 bn “ “<br />

Alfred A <strong>Plant</strong> S 8 bn Longton, Staffs<br />

Gertrude A <strong>Plant</strong> D 4 bn “ “<br />

So where was Charles Myatt <strong>Plant</strong> in 1871? According to the 1861 Census he was a 35 year-old House<br />

Painter, born Longton. However, a quick check of the 1871 Census has not located him. It would also<br />

appear from the above census that between 1851 and 1856 they moved, lived in Liverpool, (where<br />

Elizabeth was born) before returning to live in Longton. Further research and a viewing of the various<br />

birth certificates might give more information.<br />

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From Mike <strong>Plant</strong> – Member No. 219<br />

Handsworth <strong>Plant</strong>s<br />

CORRESPONDENCE<br />

We have in our family a jug marked ‘Abraham <strong>Plant</strong> 1815’. This puzzles me as the closest Abraham<br />

we have was born in 1800 and why a commemorative type jugs on his 15 th birthday? Abraham’s father<br />

was John <strong>Plant</strong> who m Sarah Newbould in Sheffield parish church on the 17 th July 1786. He was<br />

buried at St John’s Sheffield, 10 th March 1844 aged 81 giving a dob of circa 1763. John’s origins are<br />

unsubstantiated (he can be confused with a Rotherham John b c1764). Dr John <strong>Plant</strong> sees a possibility<br />

that he may be descended from the eldest son, Robert (1727/1791) of the original Sutton-com-<br />

Duckmanion <strong>Plant</strong>s (Journal <strong>Chapter</strong> 7 p. 13) and this is where I have hit the proverbial ‘brick wall’.<br />

Could I ask if anyone has any further information in this area?<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Jug<br />

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MISCELLANEOUS RECORDS – IRELAND<br />

Births, baptisms and marriages only – extracted from IGI<br />

Year Month Day Event Names Place<br />

1864 Jan 17 B Female <strong>Plant</strong> d of Robert <strong>Plant</strong> &<br />

Jane Hinds<br />

21<br />

Ballymahon,<br />

Longford<br />

1864 Aug 29 B Female <strong>Plant</strong> d of John <strong>Plant</strong> & Ballymahon,<br />

Margaret Lynch<br />

Longford<br />

1865 Nov 6 B Female <strong>Plant</strong> d of James <strong>Plant</strong> &<br />

Mary Dargan<br />

Dublin<br />

1866 Feb 2 B Female <strong>Plant</strong> d of Robert <strong>Plant</strong> & Ballymahon,<br />

Jane Hinds<br />

Longford<br />

1793 Feb 26 M Anthony <strong>Plant</strong> & Rachel Carroll St Michans,<br />

Dublin<br />

1742 Nov 7 Bt Charles <strong>Plant</strong> s of William <strong>Plant</strong> St Nicholas,<br />

Dublin<br />

1864 July 13 M Edward <strong>Plant</strong> & Mary Donelly St Paul, Dublin<br />

1867 Feb 15 B Edward <strong>Plant</strong> s of Robert <strong>Plant</strong> & Kiltegan,<br />

Catherine Kinsella<br />

Wicklow<br />

1849 Jan 19 M Elizabeth <strong>Plant</strong> & Thomas Fielow St Peter,<br />

Dublin<br />

1862 Nov 20 Bt Ellen <strong>Plant</strong> d of Edward & Maria Drumcree,<br />

<strong>Plant</strong><br />

Westmeath<br />

1769 Mar 16 Bt George <strong>Plant</strong> s of Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> & St Nicholas,<br />

Ann Elizabeth<br />

Waterford<br />

1845 Sep 18 M George <strong>Plant</strong> & Eliza Parsons Kildallon,<br />

Cavan<br />

1899 Jan 8 B Harriet Mary Agnes <strong>Plant</strong> d of<br />

James <strong>Plant</strong> and Harriett Kenny<br />

Dublin<br />

1930 Apr 20 M Harriet Mary Agnes <strong>Plant</strong> &<br />

Joseph Luke Dunne<br />

Dublin<br />

1737 Dec 11 Bt James <strong>Plant</strong> s of Wm? <strong>Plant</strong> St Nicholas,<br />

Dublin<br />

1860 Dec 2 Bt James <strong>Plant</strong> s of Edward <strong>Plant</strong> & Drumeree,<br />

Marie<br />

Westmeath<br />

1867 Jan 16 B James <strong>Plant</strong> s of James <strong>Plant</strong> & Kilcullen,<br />

Sarah Kane<br />

Kildare<br />

1881 Sep 5 B James <strong>Plant</strong> s of James <strong>Plant</strong> &<br />

Harriett Kennie<br />

Dublin<br />

1731 Nov 2 Bt John <strong>Plant</strong> s of Oliver <strong>Plant</strong> & St Nicholas,<br />

Mary<br />

Dublin<br />

1756 Oct 18 M John <strong>Plant</strong> & Mary Brennan St John,<br />

Limerick<br />

1893 Sep 24 B John Edward Parnell <strong>Plant</strong> s of Rathmines,<br />

James <strong>Plant</strong> & Harriet Kenny Dublin<br />

1703 Nov 28 M James <strong>Plant</strong> & Alice O’Kelly St Kevins,<br />

Dublin


Year Month Day Event Names Place<br />

1866 Jun 9 B Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> s of Henry <strong>Plant</strong> & Rathmines,<br />

Ann Mellor<br />

Dublin<br />

1846 Dec 16 M Margaret <strong>Plant</strong> & William Carey Kilcomnock,<br />

Longford<br />

1864 Jul 18 B Margaret <strong>Plant</strong> d of William <strong>Plant</strong> Ballymahon,<br />

& Anne Robins<br />

Longford<br />

1865 Jan 5 B Maria <strong>Plant</strong> d of Edward <strong>Plant</strong> & Clonmellon,<br />

Maria Riggs<br />

Westmeath<br />

1865 Jan 22 Bt Maria <strong>Plant</strong> d of Edward & Maria Drumcree,<br />

<strong>Plant</strong><br />

Westmeath<br />

1740 Feb 11 Bt Mary <strong>Plant</strong> d of Wm <strong>Plant</strong> St Nicholas,<br />

Dublin<br />

1865 Mar 10 B Patrick <strong>Plant</strong> s of John <strong>Plant</strong> & Glasson,<br />

Margaret Cormack<br />

Westmeath<br />

1742 M Robert <strong>Plant</strong> & Anne Wiseman Dublin<br />

1846 Mar 23 M Samuel <strong>Plant</strong> & Susan Newel Lurgan, Cavan<br />

1889 July 20 B Sarah Anne <strong>Plant</strong> d of James <strong>Plant</strong><br />

& Harriett Kenny<br />

Dublin<br />

1769 Jan 16 Bt Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> s of Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> & St Nicholas,<br />

Elizabeth<br />

Waterford<br />

1866 Aug 13 B Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> s of John <strong>Plant</strong> & Glassan,<br />

Margaret Cormack<br />

Westmeath<br />

1846 Jan 20 M William <strong>Plant</strong> & Anne Rollins Kilcommock,<br />

Longford<br />

1865 Jan 2 B William <strong>Plant</strong> s of Patrick <strong>Plant</strong> & Blessington,<br />

Sarah Perry<br />

Wicklow<br />

1449 Oct 21 B George <strong>Plant</strong>agenet s of Richard Dublin Castle,<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>agenet & Cecily Neville Dublin<br />

(Note George was Duke of Clarence<br />

Richard was Duke of York)<br />

1331 M Maud <strong>Plant</strong>agenet & William de Carrokfergus,<br />

Burgh<br />

Antrim<br />

1827 Apr 8 M Anne <strong>Plant</strong> 1 & James Fosker Mallow, Cork<br />

1865 Jul 22 B Elisha Plaine d of Andrew H<br />

Plaine & Anne O’Halloram<br />

Clough, Down<br />

17<strong>34</strong> M John Plaince & Catherine Smyth Ross, Cork<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>s born in Ireland but resident in UK in 1881<br />

Extracted from 1881 Census returns<br />

Total 50 <strong>34</strong> Female 16 Male<br />

Lancashire 19<br />

Warwickshire 2<br />

Leicestershire 1<br />

1<br />

Could have been spelt Plaene.<br />

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London 3<br />

Navy 2<br />

Cheshire 13<br />

Kent 2<br />

Durham 1<br />

Surrey 1<br />

Gloucester 1<br />

Staffordshire 5<br />

75% settled in Lancashire, Cheshire and Staffordshire<br />

Over 50 i.e. born 1831 or earlier = 11<br />

40 to 49 i.e. born between 1832 to 1841 = 7<br />

30 to 39 i.e born between 1842 to 1851 = 9<br />

20 to 29 i.e. born between 1852 to 1861 = 10<br />

10 to 19 i.e. born between 1862 to 1871 = 3<br />

Under 10 i.e. born between 1872 to 1881 = 10<br />

Further information relative to each person listed can be obtained from the 1881<br />

Census – see next page.<br />

The primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64 gives an indication of the <strong>Plant</strong><br />

distribution at that time with the number of <strong>Plant</strong> households in each county as<br />

follows:<br />

Carlow 1 Cavon 1<br />

Cork 1 Cork City 2<br />

Dublin 3 Dublin City 4<br />

Kildare 1 Longford 5<br />

Meath 2 Offaly 1<br />

Tipperary 1 Westmeath 14<br />

Wicklow 17<br />

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PLANTS BORN IN IRELAND<br />

1881 British Census – National Index<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Moth 1810 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Eliza MothL 1818 Irel Warw<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Ann Head 1825 Irel Leic<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Anne Serv 1829 Irel Lond<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Ann Wife 1829 Irel Navy<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, William Head 1829 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Jane Head 1830 Irel Kent<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Ann Pris 1831 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Ann Wife 1831 Irel Lond<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Anne Wife 1831 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, James Head 1831 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Wife 18<strong>34</strong> Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Susan Wife 18<strong>34</strong> Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Margaret Wife 1835 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Wife 1835 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Julia Ann Wife 1840 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Sarah Jane Wife 1840 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Wife 1841 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Susan Wife 1842 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, James Lodg 1843 Irel Durh<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, John Head 1843 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Head 1844 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Henry Srping 1846 Irel Navy<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, William George Head 1847 Irel Surr<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Ann Wife 1848 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Edward Head 1850 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Edward U Head 1851 Irel Kent<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Bridget Wife 1853 Irel Warw<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, James Son 1853 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Catherine Lodg 1855 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Wife 1855 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, William Son 1855 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Jane Wife 1857 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Robert Son 1857 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Ann Serv 1858 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Lodg Wife 1859 Irel Glou<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Dau 1860 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Edward Son 1863 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Margaret Bord 1864 Irel Lond<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Margaret Dau 1865 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, C.E. Dau 1872 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Margaret Dau 1873 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, George H Son 1874 Irel Ches<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Annie Niec 1875 Irel Staf<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Alice GDau 1876 Irel Staf<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Annie Dau 1876 Irel Ches<br />

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<strong>Plant</strong>, Robert Son 1876 Irel Lanc<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, George Son 1878 Irel Staf<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Samuel GSon 1878 Irel Staf<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Emma GDau 1880 Irel Staf<br />

The following information was submitted by a non-member, Ron Davies –<br />

welt7@shaw.ca<br />

1. Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> was born in 1810 in Longford County, Ireland. He died on 28<br />

March 1894 in Esso Township, Simcoe County, Ontario and was buried in<br />

Thornton Cemetary. He had been employed as a farmer.<br />

2. Thomas (1 above) married Elizabeth <strong>Austin</strong>..<br />

3. They had the following children:<br />

3.1 Catherine <strong>Plant</strong> born 1841 in Ireland.<br />

3.2 Margaret <strong>Plant</strong> born 15 May 1843 in Ireland.<br />

3.3 Jane <strong>Plant</strong> born c 1845 in Ireland.<br />

3.4 Robert <strong>Plant</strong> born c 1854 in Ireland.<br />

3.5 Eliza <strong>Plant</strong> born c 1857 in Upper Canada.<br />

3.6 Martha <strong>Plant</strong> born c 1858 in Upper Canada.<br />

3.7 Thomas Abraham <strong>Plant</strong> born 23 March 1861 in Thornton, Ontario.<br />

If any member has a specific connection with the above please contact Ron Davies<br />

direct. He has a lot of additional information.<br />

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CYRIL THOMAS HOWE PLANT, BARON PLANT (1910-1986)<br />

Taken from Oxford Dictionary of National Biography<br />

Cyril Thomas Howe <strong>Plant</strong>, trade union official, was born on 27 August 1910 in Leek,<br />

Staffordshire, the only son and elder child of Sidney <strong>Plant</strong>, manager of a Co-operative<br />

Society Shop, and his wife, Rosina Edna Thomas, who previously ran a grocer’s shop.<br />

He was educated at Leek high school, where he was head boy and captain of the<br />

cricket team. In 1927 he began work as a sorting clerk in the post office in Leek,<br />

where his interest in trade unions began. In these early years he was a keen local<br />

amateur association football player, and later became a referee, developing an interest<br />

in football that he retained throughout his life.<br />

In 19<strong>34</strong> <strong>Plant</strong> was successful in the limited competition for entry to the civil service<br />

clerical class. He joined the Inland Revenue in the collection service as an assistant<br />

collector. He quickly became a delegate to the conference of the newly formed Inland<br />

Revenue Staff Federation. He was elected to the executive committee of the<br />

federation and in 1937 became honorary secretary of the collection section. At this<br />

time the federation was still an unsettled alliance of former collection, inspectorate,<br />

and valuation divisions. <strong>Plant</strong> developed, and later finely tuned his skills as mediator<br />

and conciliator, helping to bind the union together. Later his skills as a ‘fixer’ were to<br />

be of great service to the international trade union movement. He was appointed in<br />

1944 to a full-time federation post as assistant secretary and then deputy general<br />

secretary. In 1960 he succeeded Douglas Houghton as its general secretary. There<br />

were by then relatively few opportunities for the federation , through <strong>Plant</strong>, to obtain<br />

improvements significantly in advance of the rest of the civil service and he directed<br />

much of his energies and abilities into broader areas of trade union and related<br />

activities.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> was a member of the Trade Union Congress general council from 1964 to 1976<br />

and served on its economic and international committees. His expertise on fiscal and<br />

economic subjects gave him far greater authority and respect than usual for someone<br />

from such a small union, and this was buttressed by his willingness to offer his<br />

colleagues good advice on income tax matters and frequent tips, some good and some<br />

less good, on horse-racing, which was a passionate interest of his. He was chairman<br />

of the TUC in 1975-6. He also fulfilled many TUC duties, including membership of<br />

public bodies such as the Community Relations Commission (1974-7), the<br />

Monopolies and Mergers Commission (1975-8), and the departmental committee of<br />

inquiry into police pay chaired by Lord Edmund Davies (1977-8). After retirement in<br />

1977 he became parliamentary adviser to the Police Federation and assiduously<br />

defended its interests in the House of Lords. A police band played at his funeral.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> was active at International Labour Office (ILO) conferences from 1965<br />

onwards, and the ILO gave him a major platform to press for the development of trade<br />

union rights and improvements in working conditions, particularly of public service<br />

employees, throughout the world. He was a member of the governing body of the<br />

ILO from 1969-1977. He played a powerful role in the programme, financial, and<br />

administrative committee, a body which exerted great authority over finance and<br />

allocation of resources during the difficult period when the USA withdrew<br />

membership and subscriptions. In the international context <strong>Plant</strong> displayed the many<br />

virtues of British trade union leaders in international settings. He grasped the<br />

importance of obtaining agreement and consensus from delegates, and his mastery of<br />

the complexities of procedural provisions allowed him to produce solutions that were<br />

acceptable to all. He spoke with eloquence, wit, and authority, earning respect from<br />

employers and government delegates alike.<br />

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<strong>Plant</strong> had a deep commitment to further education and was treasurer of the Workers’<br />

Educational Association from 1969 to 1981. He was a member of the governing body<br />

of Ruskin College, Oxford, and chairman of the governors from 1967 to 1979, helping<br />

to raise funds for one of the new buildings, which was named after him.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>’s interest in the Post Office and Civil Service Sanatorium Society began with<br />

his first job, and he was chairman of the committee of management from 1950 to<br />

1975. It was his initiative which led to the queen mother becoming patron of the<br />

society, and under his guidance it developed into a large vocational health service,<br />

with a hospital not only to provide treatment for its members but also to encourage<br />

research. When <strong>Plant</strong> was made a life peer in 1978 he gave Benenden, the location of<br />

the hospital, as that of his title. This was the greatest of <strong>Plant</strong>’s non-professional<br />

interests. He was appointed OBE in 1965 in recognition of his work for the society<br />

and CBE in 1975.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> was a firm believer in the virtues of the British civil service, with its concepts of<br />

duty and responsibilities combined with a total commitment to the benefits of strong<br />

independent trade unions to protect the rights of public service employees. At the<br />

ILO he spoke in defence of the interests of the ILO employees and in particular<br />

sought to protect their pension rights.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> was a large, well-built man, 6 feet 1 inch tall, and broad shouldered. In 1931 he<br />

married Gladys Sampson, daughter of Sampson Mayers, textile manufacturer. They<br />

had two sons and one daughter. <strong>Plant</strong> died from a burst aorta in hospital in Tours,<br />

France on 9 August 1986, while on holiday with his wife.<br />

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SNIPPITS<br />

English Settlers In Barbados 1637-1800<br />

Extracted from <br />

Name Volume Section Page No.<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> Barbados Baptisms St Phillip Parish 449<br />

1637-1800<br />

Robert <strong>Plant</strong> “ “ 449<br />

Robert <strong>Plant</strong> Barbados Wills and Wills and<br />

Administrations Administrations 135<br />

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<strong>Plant</strong>s Wills held at <strong>Family</strong> <strong>History</strong> Society of Cheshire Library<br />

Alderley Edge<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Joseph Pearson Macclesfield 1956 Ref No. C1199 Library Ref Will 83<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Elizabeth Sutton 1959 “ C2554 “ Will 461<br />

Macclesfield<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Mary Ellen Macclesfield 1942 “ C2592 “ “ Will 495<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Frank Macclesfield 1964 “ 2982 “ “ Will 864<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Ann Sutton Lane Ends 1961 “ C3650 “ “ Will 1508<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> John Fred Lyme Green, 1960 “ C3651 “ “ Will 1509<br />

Macclesfield<br />

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Calendar of Charters and Rolls preserved in the Bodleian Library<br />

21 Dec 1467 Dieulacres Stafford<br />

DIEULACRES (Abbey of) Thomas, abbot of Dieulacres, and convent of the same grant to<br />

Richard <strong>Plant</strong> of Stonycliff a licence to enclose about Lymgrene as much as to them<br />

pertains.<br />

Dated at Dieulacres in the feast of St Thomas the apostle, 16 Hen.VI.<br />

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Extracts from Kelly’s Directory of Cambs., Norfolk, Suffolk, 1892<br />

Part 3 : Suffolk<br />

Benhall Robert <strong>Plant</strong> – farmer<br />

Dennington Thomas Herbert <strong>Plant</strong> – Queens Head<br />

Charles <strong>Plant</strong> – Lodging House – 1 Myrtle Villas<br />

Samuel <strong>Plant</strong> – Apartments – 4 Highfield Place<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> – Farm Bailiff to Frederich William<br />

Wilson Esq.<br />

Fressing field Albert <strong>Plant</strong> – Farmer and surveyor of highways<br />

Lowestoft Edward <strong>Plant</strong> – Baker and Confectioner – 9 Crown St.<br />

Elizabeth <strong>Plant</strong> (Mrs) – Temperance Hotel – 38 High St.<br />

Ellen Jane <strong>Plant</strong> (Miss) – Lodging House – 10 Denmark Rd.<br />

Joseph Walter <strong>Plant</strong> – Commercial Traveller – Bath House<br />

Whapload Rd.<br />

Pettistree William Jackson <strong>Plant</strong> – Farmer – Stone Hall<br />

Saxmundham Robert Henry <strong>Plant</strong> – Refreshment Rooms – Public House,<br />

Jobmaster, carriages, traps & funeral cars<br />

on the shortest notice – Railway Station<br />

Stratford St Andrew Samuel <strong>Plant</strong> – Farmer – Hull Farm<br />

Walton Samuel <strong>Plant</strong> – Chimney sweeper<br />

Worlingworth Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> (Mrs) Farmer & Landowner<br />

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<strong>Chapter</strong> <strong>34</strong><br />

<strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong>: World War I casualty<br />

May 2007. One of a series of <strong>Chapter</strong>s by Dr. John S. <strong>Plant</strong>, Keele University, England, ST5 5BG.<br />

SOME EXTRACTS FROM AUSTIN’S NOTEBOOKS ETC.<br />

This account was initially compiled in 1990 by <strong>Austin</strong>’s nephew, John Stewart <strong>Plant</strong>, and was<br />

based on <strong>Austin</strong>’s personal effects, prefixed with some general information about the war. Subsequently,<br />

in 2007, the dated entries in particular were supplemented by information from the Official<br />

<strong>History</strong> of <strong>Austin</strong>’s Regiment; that information was supplied by his niece, Diane Mary Marshall.<br />

<strong>34</strong>.1 The Great War<br />

Perhaps the most famous words written about The Great War were by the poet Siegfried Sassoon:-<br />

I died in hell -<br />

(They called it Passchendaele); my wound was slight,<br />

And I was hobbling back, and then a shell<br />

Burst slick upon the duck-boards; so I fell<br />

Into the bottomless mud, and lost the light.<br />

<strong>34</strong>.1.1 Historical context of <strong>Austin</strong>’s actions<br />

The Great War, now generally considered to have been the worst to have taken place in Europe,<br />

was originally hoped by the British at home to be only a short campaign of about six months. The<br />

British Expeditionary Force (volunteer army) was to help the French repel a German attack on the<br />

Western Front through neutral Belgium towards Paris.<br />

1. Germany invaded Belgium and Britain declared war on 4 Aug 1914. <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong> enlisted<br />

shortly after on 3 Sep 14. By 1915 recruitment posters were rife.<br />

2. Shortly after <strong>Austin</strong>’s arrival in France, a Great Allied Offensive began on the Western Front,<br />

on 25 Sep 15. The Battle of Loos, at which <strong>Austin</strong> fought, was part of a wider three-pronged<br />

assault intended to drive the Germans out of northern France.<br />

3. The Battle of the Somme (1 Jul - 18 Nov 16) was an Anglo-French offensive under Haig<br />

and saw the first (ineffectual) use of tanks in war, by the British on 15 Sep 16 at the start of<br />

the Battle of Flers-Courcelette (Somme). <strong>Austin</strong> was wounded on 29 Sep 16 at Martinpuich,<br />

which lies between the two villages, about 1 mile from Courcelette, 2 miles from Flers; it<br />

is 6 miles NE of Albert in the Somme; it is 4 miles beyond the British front line as it was<br />

delineated at the beginning of this (series of) battle(s) which marked the emergence of the<br />

British army into fighting on the European scale of major operations (Casualties: German<br />

437,500; British 420,000; French 203,000).<br />

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<strong>34</strong>.2. AUSTIN’S FIRST BATTLE 31<br />

4. Poperinghe in Belgium is mentioned in <strong>Austin</strong>’s notes of 17 Oct 16 and 6-23 Aug 17; it is<br />

about 7 miles W of Ypres. Poison gas (chlorine) had been used for the first time successfully<br />

in war by the Germans at Ypres on 22 Apr 15 and mustard gas was used in 1917. <strong>Austin</strong> was<br />

killed on 10 Oct 17 at Hooge, which is on the Menin Road running eastward from Ypres, just<br />

north of the strategic high ridge that formed the southern flank of the eastwards advance into<br />

Passchendaele.<br />

<strong>34</strong>.2 <strong>Austin</strong>’s first Battle<br />

The Battle of Loos 1 , which began 25 Sep 15, was part of the first major offensive for some of<br />

Kitchener’s New Army division. Haig was to assault on a seven-mile front between Loos and<br />

La Bassée. This was flat country covered in industrial workings, predominantly mines and their<br />

slag heaps. There were several heavily protected villages protected by deep belts of barbed wire;<br />

this was country the Germans would find easy to defend. Six divisions, some 75,000 men, were<br />

in the opening attack following a four day bombardment and the first British use of poison gas.<br />

Cavalry were to exploit the breakthrough. However, torrential rain the night before slowed the<br />

battalions’ arrivals. In the morning the rain stopped and the breeze dropped but gas from 1,500<br />

cylinders were still used. The attack was at 6:30 a.m. At the north end, the gas was blown back<br />

into British lines and the attack failed. At the south end, the gas was blown into the German lines,<br />

and German trenches and Loos town were taken; but the success could not be exploited quickly as<br />

three Divisions of reserves were held 5 miles behind the front lines, which were many hours of hard<br />

slog away through the heavy rain of the next night; and the reserves were not in place by the next<br />

morning, so the Germans counter-attacked and succeeded. Seven Victoria Crosses were earned on<br />

the first day. By mid-October, the battle petered out – 15,800 men were killed or missing, <strong>34</strong>,580<br />

wounded. The line had advanced 2 miles at the most. The village of Hulluch and Hill 70 were still<br />

in German hands.<br />

<strong>34</strong>.3 <strong>Austin</strong>’s final Battles<br />

In 1917 there were serious mutinies in the French army and, to relieve the situation, Haig ordered an<br />

all-out attack with a stated eventual (phase 3) objective of cutting the German U-Boat rail transport<br />

link at Bruges, which is about 35 miles NE of Ypres. The ensuing Battles of Ypres in 1917 is often<br />

called ‘Wipers 3’ for there had been earlier battles in 1914 and 1915. Wipers 3 barely succeeded as<br />

far as the phase 1 objective of capturing Passchendaele only 6 miles NE of Ypres. The campaign<br />

was eventually described by Lloyd George as:-<br />

the battle which, with the Somme and Verdun, will always rank as the most gigantic,<br />

tenacious, grim, futile and bloody fight ever waged in the history of war<br />

In the initial action a ‘gigantic system’ (4 miles) of mines was exploded just beneath the German<br />

front line at 03:10am on 7 Jun 17; the explosion was heard in England. This marked the start<br />

of the Battle of Messines (7-14 Jun), after which there was a slow British advance until 31 Jul<br />

when ‘Wipers 3’ proper began with advances to the east by about 2 miles along a 12 mile front,<br />

taking the action by 4 Oct to within about 1 mile of Passchendaele whereafter the campaign came<br />

almost to a standstill in costly and bitter fighting in the swamps around Passchendaele; the intricate<br />

drainage system of the low ground around Ypres had been shattered by the long bombardment and<br />

the consequent overflow of streams, swollen by heavy rain, turned much of the battle area into a<br />

bog.<br />

1 R. van Emden (2005) Boy Soldiers of the Great War.


32 CHAPTER <strong>34</strong>. AUSTIN PLANT: WORLD WAR I CASUALTY<br />

The battles of ‘Wipers 3’<br />

Though there was much other fighting, the main officially-designated battles of the Battles of Ypres<br />

(1917) comprise:-<br />

1. Battle of Pilckem: 31 Jul - 2 Aug<br />

2. Battle of Langemarck: 16 - 18 Aug<br />

3. Battle of the Menin Road: 20 - 25 Sep<br />

4. Battle of Polygon Wood: 26 Sep - 3 Oct<br />

5. Battle of Broodseinde: 4 Oct<br />

6. Battle of Poelcappelle: 9 Oct<br />

7. First Passchendaele: 12 Oct<br />

8. Second Passchendaele: 26 Oct - 10 Nov<br />

<strong>Austin</strong> appears to have been around Langemark [27 Aug] shortly after the battle there [16-18<br />

Aug]; then at the Battle of Menin Road [20-25 Aug]; and at Polygon Wood before his Division was<br />

relieved on October 8th only for him to be killed two days later.<br />

Around Langemarck<br />

The last entry in <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong>’s notebooks was August 27th in which he mentions men working on<br />

a light railway and moving through ground just taken from German hands with numerous dead and<br />

decaying bodies. One may hence contend that <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong> may have been advancing through the<br />

general area of Langemarck.<br />

Just before this (16-18 Aug) the Battle of Langemarck had taken place and Beatrix Brice records<br />

a light railway in that region in the following story taken from The Battle Book of Ypres first<br />

published in 1927:-<br />

The 7th York and Lancaster Regiment 2 were sent into the area to open up railway<br />

communications between the backward and passable areas west of the Yser Canal 3 and<br />

the area forward of Langemarck 4 . For months they had laboured night and day, until at<br />

length a circle of light railway was laid, and in operation, from Elverdinghe along the<br />

track of the old broad gauge, up to Langemarck; and back over the Steenbeek 5 , which<br />

had to be bridged in two places. The main line was the one on the site of the broad<br />

gauge, and the other had been made with the double objective of simple utility, and to<br />

mislead the enemy should he be led to inquire into the question of communication and<br />

supply. The main line must be kept a vital secret.<br />

At Hooge on the Menin Road<br />

<strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong> is reported to have been killed instantly on 10 Oct by a shell at Hooge Crater. The tiny<br />

hamlet of Hooge, on the Menin Road, lies two and a half miles east of Ypres. Completely obliterated<br />

early in the war, it was looked upon as the worst section of the Ypres salient being continuously<br />

2 Contributed by an officer of the regiment.<br />

3 The Yser Canal passes almost north-south through Ypres.<br />

4 Langemarck is almost 3 miles E from the Yser Canal along a line 4 miles N of Ypres which passes N of Pilckem<br />

through Langemarck and then further by about 2 miles to Poelcappelle.<br />

5 The Steenbeek flows northwards towards Langemarck.


<strong>34</strong>.3. AUSTIN’S FINAL BATTLES 33<br />

subjected to shell-fire, machine gun fire and gas. The British cemetery at Hooge contains some<br />

2,000 graves.<br />

In Passchendaele: The Story behind the Tragic Victory of 1917 Philip Warner writes:-<br />

and:-<br />

There were battles around Hooge in 1915: the Château stood on slightly higher ground<br />

and the area was heavily garrisoned by German troops. The position was mined by the<br />

British troops and when it was blown up a huge crater was left. It became known as the<br />

Witches Cauldron, and as bodies fell or were flung into the water which soon filled it,<br />

the crater became indescribable.<br />

Here the enemy were very close, but even closer were the dead of both sides, under their<br />

feet, half buried in the sides of trenches, lying in the slimy water in the shell holes, and<br />

constantly disturbed by shelling and digging. Even for the dead there was no peaceful<br />

resting place.<br />

Black Watch Corner is a little over a mile to the east of Hooge, near Polygon Wood, and Beatrix<br />

Brice records an action (4 Oct 1917) that was almost contemporary with <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong>’s death:-<br />

By the time the attack was launched all indication of the route had been blasted away<br />

by the enemy’s shells and the way between two deep morasses was one of infinite peril.<br />

What was left of the road was in full view of the enemy, and the advancing tanks were<br />

met by a hurricane of shells, rifle and machine gun bullets.<br />

A little earlier, in the ‘morale boosting’ trench newspaper The B.E.F. Times, No 2, Vol 2 of<br />

Saturday 8 Sep 17, there had appeared a slightly more light-hearted account of the nearby Menin<br />

Road, through Hooge, under the heading Seen from an Aid-Post:-<br />

There are many roads on Flanders, where the horses slide and fall,<br />

There are roads of mud and pavé, that lead nowhere at all,<br />

They are roads that finish at our trench; the Germans hold the rest.<br />

But of all the roads in Flanders, there is one I know the best.<br />

It’s a great road, a straight road, a road that runs between<br />

Two rows of broken poplars, that were young and strong and green.<br />

You can trace it from old Poperinghe, through Vlamertinghe and Wipers;<br />

(It’s a focus for Hun whiz-bangs and a paradise for snipers)<br />

Pass the solid Ramparts, and the muddy moat you’re then in,<br />

The road I want to sing about — the road, that leads to Menin.<br />

It’s a great road, a straight road, a road that runs between<br />

Two rows of broken poplars, that were young and strong and green.<br />

It’s a road, that’s cursed by smokers; for you dare not show a light;<br />

It’s a road, that’s shunned by daytime; and is simply used by night,<br />

But at dark the silent troops come up, and limbers bring their loads<br />

Of ammunition to the guns, that guard the Salient’s roads.<br />

It’s a great road, a straight road, a road that runs between<br />

Two rows of broken poplars, that were young and strong and green.<br />

And for hours and days together, I have listened to the sound<br />

Of German shrapnel overhead, while I was underground<br />

In a damp and cheerless cellar, continually trying<br />

To dress the wounded warriors, while comforting the dying<br />

On that muddy road, that bloody road, that road that runs between<br />

Two rows of broken poplars, that were young and strong and green.


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<strong>34</strong>.4 <strong>Austin</strong>’s personal record<br />

Figure <strong>34</strong>.1: <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong> in (a) 1914 and (b) 1917<br />

This record comprises extracts from <strong>Austin</strong>’s contemporary letters home and, more especially, from<br />

two notebooks returned from his belongings. I have interspersed the dated entries with information<br />

from Colonel Willy’s official history entitled ‘The York and Lancaster Regiment’, Vol. II which are<br />

labelled below [Y&L II].<br />

The first section of <strong>Austin</strong>’s first notebook contains various quotes, such as one dated Good<br />

Friday April 2nd 1915:<br />

You can not dream yourself into a character. You must work hard and persiver. Above<br />

all put your trust in God.<br />

This is then rewritten as:<br />

You can not dream yourself into a character. You must hammer, and forge yourself one.<br />

Another, apparently taken from the Daily Mirror of 16 Jul 15, is:<br />

The dead do not need us; but for ever and for ever more we need them. Garfield.


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Other parts of the notebooks contain such things as a list of family birthdays, drawings of horses<br />

with superimposed crosses, notes on human anatomy, gun drill and some French phrase translations.<br />

There are also diary-like entries which, along with a dated book, postcards, information from his<br />

personal file held by the MOD, etc., can be summarised as follows:<br />

• 1906<br />

• 1914<br />

• 1915<br />

– Jul 31 [Book ‘The Innocents Abroad’] Presented for Punctual Attendance at Meersbrook<br />

Bank School, Sheffield.<br />

– Sep 3 [Information from MOD] Enlisted as Number 15861 into the York and Lancaster<br />

Regiment and posted to 8th Battalion 6 .<br />

– Sep [Y&L II] 8th Y&L was part of the 70th Brigade of the 23rd Division; the 70th<br />

Brigade began to assemble at Frensham.<br />

– Nov 11 [Letter to his mother and sisters] Under training; postmark is Frensham Common,<br />

which is about 4 miles NE of Bordon Camp, Hampshire.<br />

– Dec 1 and 2 [Y&L II] 23rd Division moved from Frensham to Aldershot.<br />

– Jan 14 [Y&L II] 70th Brigade inspected at Aldershot by Kitchener and the French War<br />

Minister.<br />

– late Jan [Y&L II] Khaki uniforms issued.<br />

– Feb, last week [Y&L II] Division moved to Shorncliffe area, Kent.<br />

– Mar 15 [Letter home] At Hythe, Kent; visits Folkestone with other soldiers.<br />

– Apr 2 [At start of first notebook] <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong>, Pte No 15861, B Company, Y & L<br />

Regiment. 58 North Rd, Hythe, Kent 7 .<br />

– Apr 7 [Postcard to his brother Tom] From Kent.<br />

– Apr 18 [Letter to his mother and sisters] At Hythe, Kent, under training including route<br />

marches; airship guarding coast.<br />

– Apr 18 [Birthday Postcard to his brother Tom] Saying he ‘was delighted to have another<br />

baby brother at the time’.<br />

– Apr 26 [Letter home] Askcham House, Hythe; bathing feet in sea before morning parade.<br />

– May 24 [Y&L II] Division move to Bordon; in hutments erected on the various commons.<br />

– May 25 Arrived at Bordon Camp (Hampshire) after just 2 weeks stay at Bromley, Kent 8 .<br />

– Jun 4 [Letter to his brother Tom] From St Lucia Barracks, Bordon, he asks Tom (aged<br />

10) to keep drawing and sending him pictures.<br />

– Jun [Y&L II] Service rifles issued to the Division; practice on Woolmer and Longmoor<br />

ranges.<br />

– Jun 22 [Letter home] Now fully equipped; 20 mile route march with full packs for first<br />

time.<br />

6 This date is 1 month after war was declared.<br />

7 This address near Folkestone is later written again as that of a Mrs Rogers.<br />

8 Bromley, now an outer suburb of London, is about 50 miles from Hythe.


36 CHAPTER <strong>34</strong>. AUSTIN PLANT: WORLD WAR I CASUALTY<br />

– Jul 14 Weds. Caught a 3ft snake whilst on manoeuvres on the moors close to White hill<br />

range.<br />

– Jul 15 Four or five men got stuck waist-deep in a bog and had to be helped out.<br />

– Jul 19 Made 7 o’clock orderly in Orderly Room.<br />

– Jul 21 [Letter home, probably written in previous week] One of men had used a rifle to<br />

kill a 3ft snake on moorlands; recalls his leave home at Xmas 1914.<br />

– Jul 21 [Y&L II] Firing, so no man allowed a pass for a week. Got identification medals<br />

that morning.<br />

– Jul 28 Two vaccinations in left arm.<br />

– Jul 30 Came home to Sheffield (28 Pearson Place, Meersbrook), arrived 2 a.m.<br />

– Aug 3 ‘Visited Aunt Kates and Aunt Mays this morning’.<br />

– Aug 5 Thurs. Got back to Bordon, midnight.<br />

– Aug 16 [Y&L II] 23rd Division inspected by King on Hankley Common.<br />

– Aug 18 Wed. Cleaning up all day for inspection.<br />

– Aug 27 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L marched to Liphook and entrained for Folkestone, arrived<br />

Bologne in evening.<br />

– Aug 27 [Information from MOD] Started Overseas Service in France (until his death on<br />

10 Oct 1917).<br />

– Aug 28 [Y&L II] Having spent the night at Ostrohove Rest Camp, the 8th Y&L marched<br />

to Pont-de-Briques, entrained at noon for Audriceq arriving at 3 p.m., then marched to<br />

Nielles-les-Ardes near St Omer where they were billeted in farm buildings.<br />

– Sep 3 Billeted in an old farm in France, no blankets and short of food.<br />

– Sep 7 [Y&L II] 23rd Division marched to the Borre-Vieux Berques area; this was a<br />

trying march due to the very great heat and its all being on the pavé.<br />

– Sep 9 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L to front-line trenches beyond Erquingham for training by the<br />

Royal Irish Regiment.<br />

– Sep 14 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L appear to have supplied a working party of 400 for the Division’s<br />

trenches of c.4,500 yards from a point 300 yards south of the farm Grande<br />

Flamengie to the road from Armentieres to Wez Macquart.<br />

– Sep 15 [Letter home] One of his platoon had drowned in a pond before he even went<br />

into the firing line. He had already seen a British plane bring down a German one and<br />

had been in trenches for <strong>34</strong> hours.<br />

– Sep 17 Building a trench between German and British lines at night, perpetual German<br />

sniping; one R.E. shot through head and buried today.<br />

– Sep 18 Left Reserve Trenches and went into firing line 9 .<br />

– Sep 25 [Y&L II] Battle of Loos. After 4 days of artillery fire, the 8th Y&L were in<br />

support in the left section with the aim of capturing the German line between Corner<br />

Fort and Bridoux Fort. The German front line was indeed captured, and part of their<br />

second line, though by nightfall the 8th Y&L was back in the original trenches.<br />

– Sep 30 [Y&L II] 23rd Division, to left of the lines, arriving about 8.30pm; 8th Y&L<br />

withdrawn to billets in the Rue Marle about 2 miles to the rear left of the lines.<br />

– Oct 11 to 18 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L at Estaires.<br />

– Oct 18 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L marched to Sailly. Part of Division reserve under training, by<br />

association with more experienced troops.<br />

9 This date coincides with the start of the Great Allied Offensive.


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• 1916<br />

– Oct, late to Nov, early [Y&L II] 8th Y&L strengthening front-line trenches, preparing<br />

winter accommodation in and behind the lines and preparing for an attack similar to the<br />

Battle of Loos; but the proposed attack was abandoned after 48 hours of rain.<br />

– Nov 24 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L marched to billets in and around Steenbecque; withdrawn to<br />

army reserve, under training.<br />

– Dec 15 Left the trenches to stay at another barn in France for a rest.<br />

– Dec 15 [Letter to his brother Norman] Not keen to get back to trenches.<br />

– Dec 18 Company and Battalion drills in morning on bad, wet ground.<br />

– Jan 9 [Y&L II] The Division began to return to the Lys area, with his Brigade to the right<br />

of the Fleurbaix sector.<br />

– Feb 4 [Y&L II] Tyneside Scottish troops sent to 8th Y&L for instruction in trenches.<br />

– Feb 8 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L patrol, comprising 2nd Lt., sergeant and 7 men, discovered<br />

3 enemy working parties. Several Mdls bombs and rifle grenades were thrown ‘with<br />

apparently good effect’.<br />

– Feb 9 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L patrol in hand-to-hand fighting. Germans killed. Lt Willets<br />

wounded.<br />

– Mar 26 [Y&L II] The 8th Y&L marched in afternoon via Estairis, La Gorgue and<br />

Calernne; they were entrained for Longeau near Amiens; and marched to Vignacourt<br />

arriving the night of the 27th.<br />

– Apr 4 [Y&L II] The Division was in the Le Boiselle-Thiepval sector overlooking the<br />

River Anere. The 8th Y&L were in brigade reserve in billets in Albert at first.<br />

– Apr 7 Attached to 179th mine-laying Company, Royal Engineers.<br />

– Apr 13 [Letter home] Working with Royal Engineers in France.<br />

– Apr 28 Working with mine-laying Company at Albert, France 10 .<br />

– Apr 30 Big bombardment on front at about 1.30 a.m., third one recently.<br />

– May 7 Still working 8 hour shifts with 179th mine-laying Company.<br />

– May 10 Expecting to return to his own Regiment and move from this part of line tomorrow.<br />

– May, late [Y&L II] The 8th Y&L were in trenches in the left sub-sector of the 8th<br />

Division in front of Authuille Wood; German machine gunners were ‘very active’. For<br />

the next few weeks, they moved between the advanced trenches and reserve in Albert<br />

where an attack was practised over a flagged course.<br />

– Jun 6 [Y&L II] The 8th Y&L were sent by train to Bruay. The Battalion was reinforced.<br />

– Jun 17 [Y&L II] An 8th Y&L patrol, comprising 2nd Lt, sergeant and 6 men, suffered<br />

one killed and all the rest wounded in a bombing attack on 15 Germans.<br />

– Jun 30 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved into position for attack, facing an exceptionally wide<br />

No-Man’s-Land beneath the southern spur of the German’s Thiepval Salient.<br />

– Jul 1 [Y&L II] First Battle of the Somme. At 6:30am, the Allies’ guns delivered an<br />

intense bombardment; the enemy replied. There was heavy shelling of the 8th Y&L<br />

front-line trenches in the Nab but very few casualties. As the wind was unfavourable,<br />

smoke could not be liberated during the attack; but, at 7:30am, the first wave of 8th<br />

10 Albert in the Somme is near Amiens and was entirely destroyed by German artillery. It is now, with a population of<br />

10,000, a centre for visiting the 1914-18 battlefields.


38 CHAPTER <strong>34</strong>. AUSTIN PLANT: WORLD WAR I CASUALTY<br />

Y&L left the trenches maintaining perfect order, but they were met with exceptionally<br />

heavy fire from the front and both flanks. Most of the men were killed or wounded.<br />

The remaining waves were also mown down by machine guns before getting half-way<br />

to the German trenches. About 70 men reached the German front line, some eventually<br />

reached the third line where all were killed or taken prisoner – one returned. Almost all<br />

of those who were held up at the German front line were killed – three returned. Many<br />

Germans were killed in their trenches and when marching across the open to counter the<br />

attack. The 8th Y&L suffered heavy casualties – 90% killed, wounded or missing. Of<br />

23 officers, 13 were killed and 5 wounded. Of the NCOs and men, 612 were killed or<br />

wounded or missing. In the evening, the few survivors were withdrawn to Long Valley,<br />

Millencourt.<br />

– Jul 4 ‘Bat (h)as just been cut up’, moving down line, big advance on British Front.<br />

– Jul 14 [Y&L II] The Brigade left the Bruay area, moving to Poulainville.<br />

– Jul 17 [Y&L II] The Brigade moved to Pierregot and Miruaux.<br />

– Jul 21 [Y&L II] Division marched to Baizieux Wood with the 8th Y&L probably being<br />

held in reserve.<br />

– Aug 7 to 17 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved by way of Millencourt, La Vieille, Bresle,<br />

Franvilles, Frenchencourt, Longpré, Cocquerel and Metern to Steenwerck.<br />

– Aug 17 to Sep 2 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved to Steenwerck; took over the front line and<br />

support trenches in the left sector until they were relieved on Sep 2.<br />

– Sep 12 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L in Bresle in reserve corps; they supplied large stretcher carrying<br />

parties during the capture of Martinpuich 11 .<br />

– Sep 18 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved into trenches near Martinpuich. The Division pushed<br />

forward with varying success for the next few days.<br />

– Sep 29 ‘Wounded at farm just to the right of Martenpuch on the 29th inst about 1<br />

o’clock’.<br />

– Sep 29 [Y&L II] Destremont Farm. The 8th Y&L made an infantry attack on the farm<br />

supported by divisional artillery. [This is apparently when <strong>Austin</strong> was wounded]. From<br />

about 6 a.m. on the 29th until 9:30 on Oct 2nd, they and a section of 70th Machine Gun<br />

Company held the farm. Of the 8th Y&L, 3 men were killed, and 2 officers and 14 men<br />

were wounded [one apparently being <strong>Austin</strong>].<br />

– Sep 29 [Y&L II] Destremont Farm. Two previous attacks had failed. The 8th Y&L<br />

Captain Burlen’s Company were to attack the farm with a second Company in support.<br />

At 5:30am, the Company assembled at over 700 yards from the farm, moved forward<br />

in two waves 50 yards apart, under cover of an artillery barrage, to within 50 yards of<br />

the enemy lines. The artillery barrage ended; and immediately the Germans opened up<br />

intense fire with rifles and machine-guns. But it was too late. The 8th Y&L charged<br />

the position with loud cheers, killed a large number of Germans and drove the rest away<br />

in great disorder. One machine gun, a thousand bombs, many thousands of rounds of<br />

ammunition and a large number of rifles were captured. Heavy German artillery bombardment<br />

of the farm resulted in 3 platoons being withdrawn for safety. The farm was<br />

held by one platoon of the 8th Y&L and a section of the 70th Machine-Gun Company<br />

until they were relieved at 9:30am on Oct 2nd.<br />

– Oct 2 [Notification from Infantry Record Office, York, dated Oct 20] <strong>Austin</strong> had been<br />

wounded in action (gunshot wound to head) and admitted to 5 General Hospital, Rouen<br />

on Oct 2nd. [It would seem that, following his wounding on Sep 29th, <strong>Austin</strong> did not<br />

reach hospital until Oct 2nd].<br />

11 Martinpuich is about 1 mile beyond the British Front Line as had been delineated on 13 Sep 16.


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• 1917<br />

– Oct 7 In Marquee, expecting to leave hospital today (following a ‘slight scalp wound’);<br />

fed up with war but thankful to have come through 13 months.<br />

– Oct 7 [Y&L II] Le Sars. 8th Y&L were a reserve battalion to the 69th Brigade during<br />

the attack on Le Sars; 5 killed, 14 wounded, 2 missing.<br />

– Oct 9 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L relieved and moved into camp in Lozenge Wood, Contalmaison.<br />

‘With the Battle of Sars’ the 8th Y&L ‘had seen the last of the mud and slaughter<br />

of the Somme battlefields’.<br />

– Oct 17 Arrived back with Regiment, now with A Company, at Poperinghe.<br />

– Oct 18 [Y&L II] The Division reached Ypres in the evening and was placed in the Infantry<br />

Barracks. The Division held a front of 3,500 yards, commencing east of Zillebeke<br />

and left to the Ypres-Menin Road, 250 yards west of Hooge. The weather was fair, the<br />

trenches dry, but there was much raiding by both sides.<br />

– Dec 3 [Y&L II] Two Lts and 50 other men from the ranks of the 8th Y&L, in three<br />

parties, went on a night raid on German trenches just to the north of Clonmel Copse.<br />

At 12:15am, the first party left to clear the wire; but the night was very still, the frozen<br />

ground pitted with shell holes and pools of water, and the enemy were alert. The party<br />

were fired on repeatedly. At 4:00am, a torpedo was fired clearing 15 yards of wire.<br />

The assault parties pushed through the gap. Six or seven Germans were killed, several<br />

wounded and the rest of their garrison dispersed. Of the 8th Y&L, two men were<br />

missing, believed killed; both Lts and 5 other ranks were wounded.<br />

– Dec 9 [Carte Postale to his brother Tom] Christmas Greetings.<br />

– Dec 25 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L had their second Christmas Day at the front, in the trenches<br />

at Ypres.<br />

– Dec 31 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L at rest area at Winnipeg Camp, prior to weeks of training.<br />

– Feb, late [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved by rail and route march to the Bollezeele and Tilques<br />

training areas, where they stayed for over 3 weeks.<br />

– Mar 19 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved forward to Herzeele.<br />

– Apr 2 [Postcard photograph of himself to home] Says he is ‘in the pink of condition’.<br />

– Apr 6 [Y&L II] The Brigade started returning to the front line, taking over the Hill 60<br />

sector, 2500 yards from Verbrandenmolen to Observatory Ridge, 50 to 150 yards from<br />

the German front line.<br />

– Apr 8 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L relieved 19th London Regiment on Hill 60 sector.<br />

– Apr 9 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L under intense German bombardment and attacked by a large<br />

German raiding party – 26 men killed, 2 officers injured, 77 NCOs and men wounded<br />

and 69 missing.<br />

– Apr 18-21 [Letter to his mother and father on B.E.F. notepaper] At YMCA near front,<br />

inspected by Brigade General, congratulated on behaviour whilst holding trenches.<br />

– Apr 21 - May 4 [Letter to his mother and 3 sisters] Refers to photo of himself and<br />

comrades taken during short rest. In trenches from 21 Apr, in the front line for 10<br />

days, but then at a large farm a few miles behind the firing line. At ‘that do’ on Easter<br />

Monday, Goodwin was wounded and by now probably in Huddersfield, Ploughwright<br />

was presumed killed, the sergeant was awarded the DCM and only 5 men in the platoon<br />

survived.<br />

– May 5 [Letter home] Sleeping in a barn in ‘a bit of a village’ a few miles behind the<br />

firing line.


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– May 6 [Letter to his brother Norman] Says ‘lost a good many old pals’ on Easter Monday.<br />

– May 9 [Letter to his father] Someone who had worked at the same firm (in Sheffield) as<br />

he had, who was also called <strong>Plant</strong>, had had to have his leg amputated after having been<br />

wounded on Easter Monday. Currently out of trenches, training.<br />

– May 9 [Letter to his mother] Remembers her birthday (May 3) and recalls his brother<br />

Tom’s birth (10 Apr 05).<br />

– May 12 [Y&L II] After a week out of the trenches, the 8th Y&L returned to the front<br />

line in the Observatory Ridge-Hooge sector, and were preparing for a great offensive to<br />

free the Ypres Salient from enemy observation.<br />

– May 31 On leave in Sheffield, ‘two more days to go and then back to Belgium’.<br />

– Jun 2 Left Sheffield Midland Railway Station 11.35 p.m.<br />

– Jun 3 Derby. arr. London 6.00 a.m., arr. Folkestone midday, dep. Folkestone 6.00 p.m.,<br />

arr. Boulogne rest camp 10.00 p.m.<br />

– Jun 4 Dep. Boulogne 2.30 a.m., arr. Abeele rest camp 10.00 a.m., dep. Abeele 6.00<br />

p.m., arr. rest camp 11.00 p.m.<br />

– Jun 5 Arr. Y & L transport 10.00 a.m.<br />

– Jun 6 Sent up the line on carrying party 12 .<br />

– Jun 7 [Letter home] Gives details (as in Jun 3 entry in notebook) of journey from England<br />

to France.<br />

– Jun 7 [Y&L II] Battle of Messines, Ypres. The 8th Y&L were in the second phase;<br />

they suffered heavy casualties. They were successful but 300 were killed, wounded<br />

or missing. The 8th Y&L, particularly A Company (which <strong>Austin</strong> says he had joined<br />

in his notebook entry of 17 Oct 1916) suffered heavy casualties from artillery fire before<br />

and during their movement to their forward assembly position. A Company lost<br />

3 officers and many NCOs and, as a result, became disorganised and missed direction.<br />

Captain Barlow, acting second-in-command of the 8th Y&L, went forward to lead the<br />

company to its target. The Company killed many Germans and took several prisoners.<br />

The Battle of Messines was described as the ‘most complete and overwhelming<br />

success yet achieved in trench warfare’. On Jun 7, 7200 prisoners and 67 guns were<br />

captured. There was no serious German counter-attack; heavy German bombardment of<br />

the captured area, on Jun 9 and 10, failed.<br />

– Jun 9 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved by lorry to camp near Busseboom.<br />

– Jun 14 Out of trenches for short rest, expecting reinforcements.<br />

– Jun 20 Billeted at a farm near Metern 13 , on stretcher bearing course.<br />

– Jun 24 [Y&L II] Division back to the front, in the Hill 60 sector.<br />

– Jun 26 Sun. German aeroplane brought down.<br />

– Jun 30 Holding trenches taken from the Germans in the last push (Jun 7) 14 ; shell holes,<br />

mud and water, terrible smell of dead men and horses; staying with some R.A.M.C.<br />

chaps in an old German concrete dug out, which is being used as an Aid Post.<br />

12 This date coincides with the start of the Battle of Messines (7-14 Jun).<br />

13 Meteren is about 12 miles SW of Ypres.<br />

14 On 7 Jun much of the Messines Ridge was captured by the British in just one hour and forty minutes and, by<br />

midnight, they had advanced down the far side and also taken ground to the N as far as ‘Hill 60’. The subsequent work<br />

was largely to consolidate this ‘completely successful limited attack’ brought about largely by exploding 4 miles of mines<br />

just beneath the German front line, on which work had been carried on for the previous year.


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– Jul 1 Heavy attack from Germans just before dawn; up to knees in mud and water. He<br />

notes from letter to him that his brother Norman is to have his medical tomorrow, on the<br />

day after his birthday (his 19th): he hopes that he fails it 15 . Also, his sister Elsie (aged<br />

14) is to go for an examination this month: he hopes that she passes 16 . In dug out, with<br />

sentry, by day and laid in open by night. Expecting to be relieved by K.O.Y.L.I. into<br />

reserve dug outs soon.<br />

– Jul 2 Lot of casualties from German artillery attack just before dawn; several killed and<br />

a lot wounded in a party of R.E.’s and Infantry who were laying cable just behind British<br />

third line; much stretchering; been holding the same trench, called Compton Corner, for<br />

5 days.<br />

– Jul 4 Digging support trench at night 17 .<br />

– Jul 5 Relieved by Durham’s but got lost on way out.<br />

– Jul 9 Still resting under canvass (Mickmack camp).<br />

– Jul 10 Two men of M.G.C. Corp. killed, about 5 wounded, from 2 shells on camp; ‘one<br />

fellow was blown up in the air’.<br />

– Jul 12 On Hill 60 18 last night, digging trench for cable.<br />

– Jul 13 Arr. Steenvord 19 10.00 p.m., by train and 5 km. march.<br />

– Jul 18 At Metern, training for S.B.<br />

– Jul 18 [Letter home] Near to 8th Battalion pioneers of the Royal Sussex.<br />

– Jul 22 [Y&L II] The Division was withdrawn to the Berthern area, for training in Wizernes<br />

and Meteren.<br />

– Aug 3 [Letter to his mother] He expects that the bad weather will have affected the<br />

British advance.<br />

– Aug 4 [Letter home] Still out of trenches.<br />

– Aug 6 Left Metern, marched to Arques where stopped in tents for night, then to St.<br />

Omer, then about 8 km. to a little village near Watten, then up the line near Poperinghe.<br />

– Aug 11 Resting under canvass near Proven.<br />

– Aug 14 [Letter home] Still out of trenches.<br />

– Aug 21 German aeroplanes over camp.<br />

– Aug 23 Moved to tents on other side of Poperinghe from Proven.<br />

– Aug 25 At Bond Ypres.<br />

– Aug 27 Men working on light railway 20 in field were subjected to 4 bombs and machine<br />

gunning from low German aeroplane. Moved up the line into trenches amidst pouring<br />

15<br />

Compulsory military service for single men aged 19-30 had been introduced for the first time in Britain on 10 Feb<br />

1916.<br />

16<br />

She later progressed to becoming a Headmistress.<br />

17<br />

The period from 14 Jun to 31 Jul was one of slow British advance, such as by about 600 yards further down the far<br />

side of the Messines Ridge.<br />

18<br />

Hill 60 is about 3.5 miles SE of Ypres and at the most northerly point of the 5 mile length of slightly high ground<br />

gained at the Battle of Messines, whereafter a further 6 miles of the ridge NE to Passchendaele formed a strategic<br />

southmost flank of the subsequent eastwards advance (Hooge, where he was later killed, is about 2 miles north of Hill 60<br />

on the edge of this subsequently taken strategic ridge).<br />

19<br />

Steenwerk is near the railway and about 4 miles SE of Meteren, which is about 12 miles SW of Ypres.<br />

20<br />

This may have been the supply line to Langemarck, or its dummy, as discussed in section <strong>34</strong>.3. This suggests that,<br />

after being on the south flank at Messines and after his retreat for training at Meteren, he had returned to the front at a<br />

position 3 or 4 miles NE of Ypres, to where the centre of the action had then switched (Poelcappelle is about 5 miles NE<br />

of Ypres along the road to Roulers which passes through St Julien, which is about 2 miles south of Langemarck along<br />

the Steenbeek). Later still he was at Hooge, where he was killed; Hooge is about 3 miles south of St Julien, in a (largely<br />

destroyed) woodland area which had, by then, become the main focus of the battles of advance.


42 CHAPTER <strong>34</strong>. AUSTIN PLANT: WORLD WAR I CASUALTY<br />

• 1918<br />

rain, shell holes, dead horses and men, horrid smells. Moved through remnants of a<br />

wood 21 which has become razed to just a charred patch and has just been taken from<br />

German hands; tree stumps and numerous decaying bodies ‘brave British Soldiers who<br />

have give...’ (incomplete sentence, no more entries in notebook).<br />

– Aug, late [Y&L II] Brigade had been moved to the front line beyond Busseboom. The<br />

8th Y&L came under very heavy shell and rifle fire and were engaged in hand to hand<br />

fighting; 12 killed, 44 wounded, 2 missing.<br />

– Aug 30/31 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L were relieved and withdrew to billets in Abeele.<br />

– Sep 5 [Letter to his mother and 3 sisters] Had been out of trenches for 5 days. ‘Fritey’<br />

planes were active ‘the other week’. Whilst they were resting in a field about 7 planes<br />

came over and dropped 4 bombs quite near but no-one was hurt. He writes ‘had a rather<br />

rough time of it, this last time in the trenches’. His friend was killed and, at the same<br />

time, he himself was hit in the leg but it did not go in and only caused a slight bruise;<br />

otherwise, it would have been ‘a nice Blighty one’ especially if he had been sent to<br />

hospital in Sheffield but ‘No such luck’. Now billeted in a barn on a farm.<br />

– Sep 18 [Y&L II] Brigade in Dickebusch area. The 8th Y&L supplied a raiding party of<br />

50 men and took 24 German prisoners. At 6:00am, 2 officers and 50 other ranks of the<br />

8th Y&L raided 300 yards into Inverness Copse. One of the 24 Germans drew a bomb<br />

from his box-respirator and flung it at a party of the 8th Y&L; he was killed ‘for his<br />

treachery’. Of the 8th Y&L, 1 officer and 2 other ranks were wounded. Of the rest, 2<br />

officers and 21 other ranks were killed; 2 officers and 48 other ranks were wounded.<br />

– Sep 20 to 25 [Y&L II] Battle of Menim Road, started at 5:30 a.m. Of the 8th Y&L, 3<br />

were killed and 4 wounded. On the 20th, one officer of the 8th Y&L and 90 other ranks<br />

carried rations from Bedford House to Tor Top. On the 21st, the 8th Y&L were still in<br />

Railway dug-outs. On the 22nd, Companies A, I and F of the 8th Y&L [<strong>Austin</strong> was in<br />

A] moved up to relieve the Australian’s Met Guides at Clapham Junction; the relief was<br />

complete by 11:15pm. On the 25th, the 8th Y&L were relieved.<br />

– Sep 30 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L in front line. 4 men were killed, an officer and 12 other ranks<br />

were wounded.<br />

– Oct 1 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L under heavy bombardment and attack after attack. Around<br />

5:30am to 5:45am, a barrage was directed at the front and support lines of the 8th Y&L.<br />

The barrage continued on the Tower-Battalion HQ-Inverness Copse area until 6:30pm.<br />

There were direct hits on a room in HQ and on two dug outs.<br />

– Oct 2 [Y&L II] From the 30th Sep to that night, the 8th Y&L had: one officer and 8 men<br />

killed; one officer and 50 NCOs and men wounded; and 3 men gassed.<br />

– Oct 3 [Y&L II] 8th Y&L moved to billets at Meteren.<br />

– Oct 8 [Y&L II] The Division was relieved by the 7th Division in front of Polygon Wood.<br />

– Oct 10 [Notification from Infantry Record Office, York, dated Nov 7] <strong>Austin</strong> reported<br />

killed in action in France on 10 Oct 1917.<br />

– Jan 3 [Letter from S.Walker(?), Lt, 8th Yorks and Lancaster, Italy] In reply to letter from<br />

<strong>Austin</strong>’s father, he explains that <strong>Austin</strong> was killed whilst the battalion was on its way to<br />

the trenches, passing Brigade HQ at Hooge Crater (on the Menin Road, Ypres salient)<br />

when a shell hit him. He died instantaneously.<br />

21 The only known substantial wood in the general area of Langemarck was Kitchener Wood about 0.5 miles W of St<br />

Julien (this had been captured earlier on 1 Aug) though there may also have been other small copses. In the advance of<br />

15 Aug (Battle of Langemarck) the gain was roughly 1 mile along a 10 mile strip NNW from just S of St Julien.


<strong>34</strong>.5. NAMES AND ADDRESSES 43<br />

<strong>34</strong>.5 Names and Addresses<br />

It is known that <strong>Austin</strong> <strong>Plant</strong>’s grandfather, James <strong>Plant</strong>, died on 7 Apr 1904 at 44 Onslow Road<br />

Greystones Sheffield and left some of his daughters living in that district. In the 3 Aug 15 entry<br />

above, <strong>Austin</strong> visits both his Aunt Kate and Aunt May in the same morning. From such information,<br />

it is thought that the following names and addresses taken from the first notebook might perhaps be<br />

those of respectively his Aunt Kate, his Aunt May, and others.<br />

• Acacia Villa, 28 Dover Road, Sheffield.<br />

• Mr Whitfield, 68 Tullibardine Road, Endcliffe, Sheffield.<br />

• Mrs J Findlow, 52 Cruise Road, Oakbrook Road, Sheffield.<br />

• Mrs Blackwell, 6 Catherine Street, Pitsmore, Sheffield.<br />

Certainly the first is believed, from family memories, to be the address of an Aunt who lived just<br />

below the Botanical Gardens. The second may (also) be the person who employed <strong>Austin</strong> and later<br />

his younger brother Norman (?); there is an entry dated 25 May 15 ‘Received a letter from Mr<br />

Whitfield, 68 Tullibardine ....’. Possibly related to the fourth, there is also written later (near the<br />

date 18 Dec 15):-<br />

• Pte T W Blackwell 15836, 8th Y & L, 31 Ward Northumberland War Hospital Gosforth<br />

Newcastle on Tyne.<br />

and the name Blackwell is also jotted down early on with other surnames and small sums of money<br />

(perhaps card playing debts) most crossed off.<br />

There is an entry 15 Aug 15 ‘This morning wrote a letter to Mr Moore and one to Mr and Mrs<br />

Rowe’ and, earlier, there is the address:-<br />

• Mrs Rowe, 77 Newbury Road, Bromley, Kent.<br />

which presumably relates to the stated visit to Bromley (cf. the item 25 May 15 above).<br />

In addition, there is a postcard from <strong>Austin</strong> in Pontefract (undated) to his brother Tom (jnr)<br />

saying ‘I did not find out there were no trains on Sunday until I went out to see if Norman was<br />

coming’. Also, there are two postcards from someone called ‘Bert’ in Belgium to <strong>Austin</strong>’s father<br />

Tom (snr) dated Sep 1927, saying he would have a lot to say about his visits to Ypres and the<br />

battlefields when he got back.<br />

<strong>34</strong>.6 From the Ministry of Defence<br />

The following are extracts from a letter dated 1 Oct 1990 from the Army Search Unit of the Ministry<br />

of Defence.<br />

• As mentioned in my letter of 14 September 1990 there are only a few documents in the file of<br />

the above-named, your Uncle, and those that do exist have been badly damaged by fire.<br />

• Medals Awarded: 1914/15 Star; British War and Victory Medals.<br />

• On attestation Private <strong>Plant</strong> declared that he was born ‘in the Parish of Sheffield in or near the<br />

town of Sheffield in the county of Yorkshire’. It is difficult to read his trade on enlistment but<br />

it would appear to be sawpiercer. He gave his age as 20 years and 310 days 22 .<br />

22 His date of birth was 9 Nov 1893 and his date of enlistment was 3 Sep 1914; this stated age would correspond to a<br />

date 15 Sep 1914.


44 CHAPTER <strong>34</strong>. AUSTIN PLANT: WORLD WAR I CASUALTY<br />

• He gave his next of kin as his father Tom and his mother Rose Beatrice of 28 Pearson Place,<br />

Meersbrook.<br />

• His brothers are listed as Norman aged 24 and Tom aged 14 and his sisters as Jessie aged 19,<br />

Beatrice aged 18, Elsie Mabel aged 16, Mary Winnifred aged 12 and ? Millicent aged 7 23 .<br />

• He is described as being 5 feet 7 1/2 inches tall, weighing 110 lbs with brown eyes, dark hair<br />

and a fair complexion.<br />

23 With the exception of Norman, these ages could only be correct for a date lying between 20.8.1919 and 15.1.1920.


What are electoral registers:<br />

ELECTORAL REGISTERS – CHESHIRE<br />

��Electoral Registers list people entitled to vote at elections.<br />

��The earliest electoral registers date from 1832. You will find electoral registers<br />

dating from then until the present day at Cheshire Record Office. The only<br />

exception to this is that no electoral registers were compiled between 1916 and<br />

1917 and between 1940 and 1944.<br />

Who will I find in an electoral register:<br />

��In 1832 the right to vote (of franchise) was given to about 1 in 7 of the male<br />

population. The right depended on the value of the property owned or rented.<br />

��In 1867 and 1844 the franchise was extended so that by 1884 about two-thirds of<br />

the male population had the vote.<br />

��Women were not entitled to vote in Parliamentary elections until 1918, when most<br />

women over the age of 30 were enfranchised.<br />

��Only in 1828 did all adults (over 21) gain the right to vote.<br />

��In 1969 all adults of 18 years or older gained the right to vote.<br />

How do I find the person or address I’m looking for?<br />

��Each electoral division or constituency will have a separate register.<br />

��Each electoral division or constituency consisting of several townships.<br />

��For most of the 19 th century names in electoral registers are in alphabetical order<br />

within each township.<br />

��After 1918 most registers are arranged by ward, street and then house number.<br />

You therefore need to know an address before you begin searching for a person.<br />

45


From W <strong>Plant</strong> to William <strong>Plant</strong><br />

STAFFORDSHIRE MARRIAGE INDEX 1500’s TO 1837<br />

No. Name Status Occupation Residence Name Status Occupation Residence Date Place Notes Banns/Lic.<br />

W Leek Weston, Anne Alstonfield 21 May 1696 Leek<br />

W Leek Wood, Magdalen Leek 17 Dec 1741 Leek<br />

Walter Uttoxeter Elks, Mary 01 May 1732 Alton<br />

Warwick Smith, Elizabeth 25 Jul 1836 West Bromwich<br />

William Burgis, Margerie 25 Jan 1567/8 Mucklestone<br />

William Sutton, Mary 28 Oct 1688 Uttoxeter<br />

William Uttoxeter Lea, Mary 24 Aug 1718 Lichfield<br />

Cathedral<br />

William Smith, Mary 12 Dec 1730 Kingsley<br />

William Uttoxeter Phill, Ann Checkley 11 Aug 1740 Kingsley<br />

William Muckleston Salt, Mary Muckleston 05 Jan 1741/2 Chebsey<br />

William Jones, Mary 18 Apr 1750 Eccleshall l<br />

William STS<br />

Taylor, Sarah 12 Sep 1756 WOR<br />

Kingswinford<br />

Oldswinford<br />

William Astbury Brownswort, Ann Biddulph 09 Oct 1757 Biddulph<br />

William b Read, Mary s 17 Feb 1760 Wolverhampton b<br />

William Leigh Stevenson, Mary 23 Jun 1760 Stone<br />

William Stone Bentley, Margaret<br />

Margaret signs Peggey<br />

Colwich 06 Jul 1760 Colwich l<br />

William b Badworth WAR Bromley, Margaret 23 Mar 1761 Stone l<br />

William b Smith, Mary s 17 Jun 1762 Leek<br />

William Hubbard, Sarah 17 Aug 1762 Kingswinford<br />

William Carpenter Turn Edge Shaw, Martha Turn Edge 15 Oct 1764 Longnor<br />

William Falkner, Elizabeth 31 Aug 1766 Pattingham l<br />

William b Cox, Henrietta s 01 Oct 1769 Walsall l<br />

William Morrey, Ann 31 Dec 1771 Eccleshall<br />

William w Felton, Frances s 07 Feb 1776 Walsall l<br />

William Yeomans, Sarah 20 May 1777 Pattingham l<br />

William b Copland, Mary s 08 Jul 1780 Leek<br />

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No. Name Status Occupation Residence Name Status Occupation Residence Date Place Notes Banns/Lic.<br />

William Yeoman Swynnerton Higginson, Mary s Swynnerton 13 Dec 1781 Swynnerton l<br />

William Parker, Sarah 30 Dec 1782 Eccleshall<br />

William Salt, Mary 02 May 1785 Alton<br />

William Norton Howcroft, Sarah s 26 Oct 1788 Stoke-on-Trent<br />

William Hollinshead, Anne 21 Dec 1788 Stone<br />

William Walton, Hannah s 12 Apr 1789 Stoke-on-Trent<br />

William Newdale, Mary 30 May 1789 Alton<br />

William b Gold, Elizabeth s 07 Feb 1790 Sedgley<br />

William b West Bromwich Staples Catherine s Wednesbury 07 Sep 1791 West Bromwich l<br />

William b Hawkins, Mary 14 Feb 1792 Stafford, St<br />

Mary<br />

William b Ratcliff, Hannah s 18 Jun 1792 Checkley l<br />

William b Gnosall Evans, Ellen s 02 Jan 1793 Rocester l<br />

William Walker, Anne 03 Dec 1793 Stone<br />

William Harrisson, Mary 03 Feb 1794 Gnosall<br />

William Wakefield, Mary 02 Nov 1795 Stone<br />

William w Farmer Norton Goodwin, Sarah s 28 Dec 1795 Stoke-on-Trent<br />

William Eccleshall Simkins, Jane Eccleshall 03 Feb 1796 Eccleshall l<br />

William Stoke Challiner, Elizabeth 04 Oct 1798 Whitmore<br />

William LEI Brayston Keye, Mary 11 Feb 1800 Tamworth<br />

William Powell, Sarah 02 Dec 1800 Stone<br />

William Shoemaker Stoke Chalner, Sarah s 18 Jul 1802 Whitmore<br />

William Collier Brunt, Ellen s 19 Oct 1803 Stok-on-Trent<br />

William Eaton, Elizabeth 31 Dec 1803 Cheadle<br />

William Potter Copeland, Elizabeth s 20 Feb 1804 Burslem<br />

William Cooper Thompson, Eleanor s 24 Apr 1804 Burton-on-Trent<br />

William Huldridge, Susannah 16 Jan 1809 Norton-le-Moors<br />

William Collier, Frances Eccleshall 15 Apr 1809 Ellenhall<br />

William Stoke Finney, Elizabeth Stoke 13 Nov 1809 Bucknall<br />

William Collier Wolstanton Gater, Mary Wolstanton 20 Apr 1811 Wolstanton<br />

William Standley, Ann 09 July 1812 Eccleshall<br />

William b Bestwick, Mary s 02 Jan 1815 Alstonefield<br />

William Blakeman, Bridget 07 Mar 1815 Stone<br />

William b Servant Ashley Green, Mary 16 Oct 1815 Keele<br />

47


No. Name Status Occupation Residence Name Status Occupation Residence Date Place Notes Banns/Lic.<br />

William b Olner, Maria s 03 Oct 1815 Lichfield St<br />

Michael<br />

William b Heath, Elizabeth s 20 Oct 1817 Leek<br />

William Preston, Mary Leigh 20 Dec 1817 Fulford<br />

William b Barnes, Elizabeth s 19 Apr 1818 Sedgley<br />

William Eccleshall Maddocks, Mary Eccleshall 14 Apr 1819 Eccleshall l<br />

William High Offley Norris, Ann 08 Feb 1821 Norbury<br />

William Myatt, Elizabeth 19 July 1821 Norton-le-Moors<br />

William b Bentley, Ann s 30 Sep 1821 Stafford St Mary<br />

William b Carrington, Mary<br />

Ann<br />

s 05 Feb 1823 Leek<br />

William b SAL Newport Jones, Hannah s 29 Mar 1823 High Offley l<br />

William Eccleshall Cordwell, Ann Stafford St 04 Mar 1824 Eccleshall l<br />

William b Blakeman, Catherine s 26 April 1824 Castlechurch From<br />

BTs<br />

William Clewes, Elizabeth Leek 02 Jan 1827 Cheadle l<br />

William b Ashbourne Hough, Martha s ` 22 Oct 1827 Mayfield<br />

William b Farmer Pyott, Jane s 31 Jan 1828 Leek<br />

minor<br />

William b Hart, Mary Ann s 21 Jun 1830 Tipton<br />

William Mason, Ellen 27 Dec 1830 Baswich<br />

William Inston, Elizabeth 04 Nov 1832 Kingswinford<br />

William b Eccleshall <strong>Plant</strong>, Mary Anne s Eccleshall 26 Mar 1833 Eccleshall l<br />

William b Tailor Chell, Sarah s 29 Dec 1833 Leek<br />

William b Gibford, Elizabeth s 28 Jan 18<strong>34</strong> Stoke-on-Trent<br />

William w Tipton Page, Sarah s Albrighton 28 Jan 18<strong>34</strong> West Bromwich b<br />

William b Dutton, Anne s 09 Feb 18<strong>34</strong> Cheadle<br />

William Lab. Procter, Ellen s 11 Aug 18<strong>34</strong> Audley<br />

William Jones, Mary 07 Jun 1835 Wolverhampton<br />

William b Lane, Sarah s 14 Nov 1836 Tipton<br />

William b Jones, Ruth Mariah s 23 Jun 1828 Tipton<br />

Lavender<br />

William<br />

Shenton<br />

w Deakin, Hannah w 22 May 1820 Hanley<br />

48<br />

Mary


No. Name Status Occupation Residence Name Status Occupation Residence Date Place Notes Banns/Lic.<br />

Wm Drakeford, Rose ** Nov 1568 Stone<br />

Wm Bearson Jayle, Elizabeth Bearson 04 May 1678 Mucklestone<br />

Wm Bailey, Dinah Bearson 25 Mar 1698 Mucklestone<br />

Wm Swinerton Hazels, Eliz. Swinerton 05 Dec 1706 Caverswall<br />

Wm Hanley, Elizabeth 19 Apr 1720 Rushton Spencer<br />

Wm Tunnicliff, Millicent 30 Jul 1743 Alstonefield<br />

Wm Hollinshead, Eliz. 10 Nov 1748 Stoke-on-Trent<br />

Wm Shaw, Margt. 27 May 1751 Caverswall<br />

Wm b Stafford St Mary Latham, Margt. Muckleston 10 Nov 1760 Mucklestone<br />

Wm Alstonefield Sherrat, Margaret Alstonefield 05 Mar 1761 Alstonefield b<br />

Wm Newcastle- Broad, Sarah Newcastle- 12 Apr 1763 Newcastleunder-Lymeunder-Lymeunder-Lyme<br />

Wm Husb. Boulton, Margt. s 19 Sep 1763 Stoke-on-Trent b<br />

Wm Blacksmith Greatbatch, Ann s 01 Jan 1767 Stoke-on-Trent<br />

Wm Green, Sarah 21 May 1768 Alstonefield<br />

Wm Barker, Jane 12 Nov 1780 Norton-le-Moors<br />

Wm Husbandma Betley Swinnerton, Lydia s Betley 04 Jun 1781 Betley H:24 l<br />

n<br />

w:18<br />

Wm Blacksmith Moreton, Nancy s 08 Feb 1785 Stoke-on-Trent b<br />

Wm Leek Hunt, Hannah Leek 16 Feb 1797 Leek<br />

Wm Potter Stoke Lownds, Amy Stoke 05 Jan 1800 Newcastleunder-Lyme<br />

Wm b Collier, Elizabeth s 29 May 1804 Ellastone<br />

Wm Norton-le-Moors Vernon, Sar Norton-le-<br />

Moors<br />

28 Aug 1809 Norton-le-Moors<br />

49


<strong>Plant</strong>e + <strong>Plant</strong>t<br />

STAFFORDSHIRE MARRIAGE INDEX 1500’s TO 1837<br />

Name Status Occupation Residence Name Status Occupation Residence Date Place Notes Banns/Lic.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e Ann Piot, Francis 21 Sep 1616 Lichfield St<br />

Mary<br />

“ Ellen Leek Newton, William Leek 02 Jul 1607 CHS Macclesfld,<br />

St Mich.<br />

“ Joane Leeke Spenser, Randall Newbald 10 Jun 1657 Leek<br />

“ Law. Redearth Gent, Anne 26 Mar 1657 Leek<br />

“ Marg. Gretton, Jno. 07 Oct 1571 Lichfield St Mary<br />

“ Margaret Stawne, John 07 Nov 1596 Stafford St Mary<br />

“ Margaret Atkins, William 04 Aug 1606 Colwich<br />

“ Margeret Hawkins, William 16 Jun 1583 Mucklestone<br />

“ Mary Kendall, Wm 18 Oct 1628 Stafford St Mary `<br />

“ Thomas Muchell, Elizabetha 09 Jun 1560 Biddulph<br />

“ Thomas Yeardley, Johanna 01 Sep 1571 Audley<br />

“ Thomas Turner, Johane 30 May 1578 Ellastone<br />

“ Thomas Lancastle, Margery 04 Oct 1612 Audley<br />

“ Thos. Mellor, Jane 17 Jul 1612 Alstonefield<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>t Maria Lycett, John 04 Sep 1682 Stoke-on-Trent<br />

“ Tho. Walker, Mary 28 Aug 1720 Leek<br />

50<br />

Astbury


PALMERS INDEX TO THE TIMES<br />

Palmers Index to the Times was compiled in the late 19 th century and constitutes 450<br />

volumes including many items of interest to <strong>Family</strong> Historians.<br />

The extract below covers the period 11 November 1869 to 19 November 1870.<br />

Inquests: James <strong>Plant</strong> who died in the St. Pancras Infirmary<br />

The Times 11 Nov 1869, 4d<br />

The St. Pancras Infirmary<br />

Dr Lankester opened inquests yesterday upon several paupers whose deaths are alleged to have arisen from<br />

the condition of the workhouse wards, as testified in the report of an inquest published in The Times of<br />

Tuesday last. At the proceedings yesterday confirmatory evidence was given of the bad condition of the<br />

wards, and the new facts elicited will prove of importance.<br />

The first enquiry of the series was upon Jane Harris, a widow, aged 57, who was in the female medical ward<br />

under Dr Ellis, suffering from pneumonia. Dr Ellis stated that the female medical ward was No. 24, and at<br />

the time this woman died – namely, on the 4 th inst., - it contained 29 patients. The space would only admit of<br />

each patient having 628 cubic feet, and that was not sufficient space for sick wards, and he was not aware of<br />

any provision which could be made in the workhouse itself to diminish the overcrowding in the wards.<br />

Patients were lying on the floor, but deceased was not one of these, and one patient slept in a bath. There had<br />

been many cases of sudden death lately, and he believed the patients so died from overcrowding. He gave the<br />

results of his post-mortem examination of the body, which was to the effect that there was an effusion on the<br />

brain, that the deceased was attacked with pneumonia in one lung, and that right side of the heart was gorged<br />

in blood. In his opinion death was caused by pneumonia, accelerated by the overcrowding and insufficient<br />

ventilation of the wards.<br />

In answer to questions put b y the Coroner and jury, the witness said that there were windows above in the<br />

wards, but if these were opened the wind would beat down upon the patients’ heads. The only fresh air that<br />

came into the wards came in through the water-closets, which opened into the wards, and he considered the<br />

wards of the infirmary badly constructed for the purpose to which they were put. Then with regards to the<br />

required space, the Poor Law Board ordered that a minimum space of 850 cubic feet should be given to each<br />

patient, but some parishes did not confine themselves to this space, as, for instance, Marylebone, where they<br />

had a large body of sick, and yet gave more than 850 ft.<br />

In reply to Mr Smith, a guardian,<br />

Dr Ellis said he six weeks ago reported about the bad ventilation, and the only arrangements that had been<br />

made to remedy the evil had been begun that very morning, when some men attended to take some bricks out<br />

and to put in new ventilators, but he was not aware that the guardians were endeavouring to find a room in<br />

which to remove some of the infirmary patients.<br />

Mr Chandler, an old guardian, then interposed with the question, “Did you not send the guardians at their last<br />

meeting a report stating that 95 persons were sleeping on the floor of the infirmary wards?”<br />

Dr Ellis replied that it was so, and he had heard the guardians had refused to read his report.<br />

Several guardians then made statements, from which it was gathered that at the last meeting of the guardians,<br />

a resolution was passed ordering 27 additional beds to be put up in the infirmary. There was no dispute about<br />

this as a matter of fact, but a new guardian said the beds had been taken out of the infirmary, a statement<br />

which was at once contradicted by an old guardian amid considerable confusion and uproar, caused by several<br />

of the guardians struggling for a priority of speech on the question. Mr Smith, a new guardian, said the<br />

resolution would never be carried out.<br />

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Mr Samuel Solly, Vice-President of the Royal College of Surgeons Fellow of the Royal Society, surgeon and<br />

lecturer on surgery at St Thomas’s Hospital, was then called and examined with regard to the ward in which<br />

the women died. He gave the same evidence with respect to having visited the wards at night on the 4 th inst.<br />

As that reported in The Times on Tuesday, and then he went on to say: - I recollect No. 24 ward, the female<br />

medical ward. As to paying attention to the state of the ward, I could not enter it without paying attention to<br />

its condition. It was frightfully foul, and I cannot use expressions strong enough to describe its condition<br />

beyond saying it was frightfully foul. I attribute its foul condition to the human exhalations arising from<br />

crowding a great number of people into a small space. The ventilation of this ward and of No. 11 came, I<br />

observed, through the water-closets and the bad smell came, no doubt, in part from the water-closets, so the<br />

stench in the ward was a mixed one. I think such a condition of atmosphere would act upon the inmates so as<br />

to produce a serious apoplexy wherever there was a tendency to it. The blood of the patient would be arrested<br />

in its flow by the condition of the atmosphere, and the result would be an effusion of serum. The postmortem<br />

in this case shows that there had been congestion of the ventricles, and I consider this was owing to<br />

the bad atmosphere of the infirmary. I do think the condition of the ward would hasten the death of a person<br />

labouring under bronchitis. Persons labouring under these diseases needed to have the purest air possible.<br />

With regard to the space question, I was unable to answer positively your question at the inquest on Monday,<br />

with respect to the exact space about to be given at St Tomas’s, and when asked I said about 1,800ft. I have<br />

since made inquiries, and I find that the space given will be 1,800 cubic feet, and in special cases, 2,000.<br />

In answer to the jury, the witness said that he considered it very improbable there would have been effusion<br />

of serum on the brain in the deceased had the necessary space for breathing fresh air, and he did not see one<br />

ward which was unobjectionable. All were bad, but several were extremely bad, and with the exception of<br />

one or two wards for special cases the wards were overcrowded.<br />

A general conversation ensued, in which it was proposed to go and visit the wards. To this a majority of the<br />

jury objected that they were not technically educated so as to judge of the wards, and they would rather trust<br />

to the knowledge conveyed to them by the medical gentlemen that to their own views. Several of the<br />

guardians desired to escort the jurymen round the wards, and seemed somewhat disappointed at this view.<br />

The Coroner proceeded with the case when order had been restored, and the jury returned a verdict – the<br />

Coroner saying it was clear that death had arisen from the overcrowding – that deceased came by her death<br />

“from the mortal effects of an effusion of serum on the brain,” and that the death was “accelerated by<br />

overcrowding and the want of ventilation in the St Pancras Infirmary.”<br />

A juror said something ought to be said in the verdict about the guardians not having taken notice of Dr<br />

Ellis’s report of six weeks since with respect to the want of ventilation.<br />

The Coroner replied that to do that other evidence must be called, and he deprecated such action.<br />

The inquiry into the death of Julia Cowden, aged 30, then opened. This deceased had been in the workhouse<br />

before, and came in a second time 14 days before. She was put into No. 24 ward, in which were 27 beds, and<br />

two on the floor, making 29 patients. Deceased died on Sunday morning. The nurse further said the deceased<br />

had been a hardworking woman. The ward was very close, and the patients complained very much. There<br />

was no artificial means of ventilation of the ward. The evil of overcrowding had been increasing during the<br />

14 months she had been employed in the building.<br />

Dr Ellis, the medical officer gave evidence regarding this death similar to that already given. The post<br />

mortem gave the same indications of congestion of the brain, and the fullness of the ventricles, as in the other<br />

case, and the death arose from the phthisis, accelerated by the bad atmosphere. Dr Ellis said that he had<br />

constantly reported to the guardians of the overcrowded state of the infirmary during two of the five months<br />

he had held the appointment. It was well known that the same thing occurred last winter, but it had come<br />

with increasing force this winter.<br />

The Coroner said Mr Carter, who accompanied Mr Solly, could give the jury independent evidence with<br />

respect to these wards at night.<br />

Mr Robert Brudenell Carter, FRCS, of 8 Princess-street, Hanover-square, stated in answer to questions put by<br />

the Coroner, -“I have been surgeon to great military hospitals in the East, surgeon the ophthalmic hospitals,<br />

and surgeon to the Nottingham Workhouse, I am, therefore, quite familiar with the management of hospitals<br />

and workhouse wards. I accompanied Mr Solly in his visit to these wards and I went into No. 24 ward as well<br />

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as other wards. I have a very distinct recollection of this No. 24 ward, for it was very much overcrowded.<br />

The beds were close together, and the atmosphere was excessively foul. I concur generally in all that Mr<br />

Solly said about the ward. It was manifest to me that the cubic space was too small, and that there was no<br />

provision for changing the air, so that the patients were compelled to breath over and over again the same<br />

atmosphere. The gas lights, too, in all four, I think, were burning, so causing an increase of noxious effluvia.<br />

I can hardly say that there wards can be improved in any way in the ventilation except by shafts. All the<br />

wards were badly ventilated, and I have not the slightest doubt that the death of this woman was accelerated<br />

by the condition of the ward in which she was a patient. In fact, she died from the same effects was caused<br />

the deaths in the Black Hole of Calcutta.<br />

The same verdict as in the other case was delivered – namely, that death was accelerated by the overcrowding<br />

and want of ventilation in the wards of S. Pancras Infirmary.<br />

A third inquiry was opened on James <strong>Plant</strong>, a man who died in No. 6 ward of bronchitis and an effusion of<br />

serum on the brain. The same accelerating cause of death was given.<br />

Ellen Petts, a nurse, gave evidence in this case, in which the man died while in conversation with his<br />

neighbours. She said the space was very small, and during the night, and as it advanced, the patients got<br />

“very restless and ill.” The ward was very close at night.<br />

In reply to Mr Chandler, witness said the patients had told her that they sat up rat-hunting, the animals coming<br />

from the water-closets.<br />

Mr Brown, a guardian, was sworn, and said he sent the deceased to obtain the order for admittance, and he<br />

deposed that the man was very ill when he was admitted on Nov. 2.<br />

The Coroner said it would have been better to keep the people out of the infirmary while this place was like<br />

what it was. The poorest home was preferable to the infirmary.<br />

Mr RB Carter was again called, and he said he recollected No. 6 ward, and he considered that and No. 11 the<br />

worst wards in the place. No. 6 was not so much overcrowded, having a smaller number on the floor than No.<br />

11, but the stench was worse, and since he heard about the rats it struck him that these animals had made a<br />

communication with the sewers into the wards, and so introduced the sewer gases. He considered that the<br />

deaths had been accelerated by the condition of the atmosphere of the ward.<br />

Mr Chandler, and old guardian, who had visited all the home and Continental hospitals, said he had again and<br />

again complained of the space in these wards. The wards were unfit for anyone to occupy now, but he<br />

considered that Mr Corbett and his brother inspector were to blame in not informing the guardians as to the<br />

exact numbers which should be placed in these wards. No information had been given to the guardians on the<br />

matter, and the consequence was that the guardians had resolved to put in 27 more beds even now.<br />

The record of Mr Corbett’s visit to the house was read, and from that it appeared that Mr Corbett had<br />

mentioned that inmates and nurses had complained of smells, and had drawn attention to the bad atmosphere<br />

in the day and night room and in the medical wards.<br />

The Coroner said that, in justice to the public, the jury should go more into this matter, for he understood<br />

there were now several more cases of death arising from the same cause as the cases in which verdicts had<br />

been returned.<br />

Several other cases were then opened pro forma, in order that burial certificates might be give, and the<br />

inquiry was adjourned until Monday week.<br />

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Divorce Court: <strong>Plant</strong> v. <strong>Plant</strong> & Love<br />

The Times 19 Nov 1870, 11f<br />

Mr Searle appeared for the petitioner.<br />

Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, Nov. 18.<br />

(Before Lord Penzance.)<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> v. <strong>Plant</strong> and Love<br />

The petitioner is a farmer in Staffordshire, and he married the respondent, who was a widow with some<br />

property, in December 1864. She was addicted to drinking, and her propensity was the cause of frequent<br />

quarrels. In April, 1865, a deed of separation was executed, and they had never since lived together. After<br />

the separation the respondent formed an improper intimacy with a shoemaker named Love. – Decree nisi.<br />

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Update on the Name Origins project<br />

It was in 1998 (<strong>Chapter</strong> 15) that my first writings on <strong>Plant</strong> Name Origins appeared in Roots and<br />

Branches. Keith had included a little about this topic in earlier Issues of the journal whereas my own<br />

contributions to Issues 2 to 14 had been ‘<strong>Chapter</strong>s’ about the Sheffield <strong>Plant</strong>s (including the origins<br />

of my own family branch). In 1999, Keith invited me to give a presentation on the name’s origins at<br />

the Millennium Reunion and, in particular, the occasion confirmed my suspicions that many of the<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>s are especially interested in a possible connection to the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet name.<br />

Any such <strong>Plant</strong>agenet connection can be dismissed by others as an unjustified ‘fanciful notion’.<br />

So, rather than leaving ourselves open to this criticism, I set out to seek relevant evidence and assess<br />

the question objectively. For my latest two ‘<strong>Chapter</strong>s’, I have returned to my own branch of the<br />

family, but I have not forgotten the Name Origins project; and, lately I have been summarising the<br />

findings of my ‘<strong>Chapter</strong>s’ 15 to 32, making my main conclusions about the name’s origins more<br />

widely available, both on the web and in Nomina publications.<br />

Web Site Report<br />

by Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> (Member No 52) June 2007<br />

The web page on Name Origins has featured quite consistently amongst the most popular pages<br />

of the web site: http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk as indicated by the pages with the largest<br />

number of hits since November 2005:<br />

Top No. 2 No. 3 No. 4 No. 5<br />

Nov 294 Name origins 224 Reunion slides 215 DNA 207 Guestbook 197 French origins<br />

Dec 246 Name origins 199 DNA 189 French origins 159 Guestbook 157 Journal contents<br />

2006<br />

Jan 293 Name origins 274 French origins 238 Journal contents 202 DNA 186 Reunion slides<br />

Feb 298 Name origins 257 Reunion slides 233 Journal contents 232 French origins 230 Notable <strong>Plant</strong>s<br />

Mar 423 DNA 315 Name origins 259 French origins 201 Reunion slides 201 Notable <strong>Plant</strong>s<br />

Apr 893 Guestbook 284 Name origins 236 Usage stats 214 Reunion slides 206 DNA<br />

May 850 Guestbook 249 Name origins 200 Mythical origins 192 French origins 167 <strong>Chapter</strong> 19<br />

Jun 631 Guestbook 225 Name origins 225 Reunion slides 177 French origins 148 DNA<br />

Jul 659 Guestbook 231 Name origins 182 Reunion slides 150 Journal contents 127 DNA<br />

Sep 1601 Guestbook 231 Name origins 151 DNA 148 Notable <strong>Plant</strong>s 145 French origins<br />

Oct 1124 Guestbook 274 Name origins 239 Journal contents 196 DNA 182 French origins<br />

Nov 4256 Guestbook 282 Name origins 215 DNA 197 French origins 188 Journal contents<br />

Dec 1570 Guestbook 203 Name origins 193 DNA 158 Journal contents 145 <strong>Plant</strong> soul<br />

2007<br />

Jan 1550 Guestbook 605 Usage stats 238 Journal contents 227 Name origins 201 Notable <strong>Plant</strong>s<br />

Feb 2101 Guestbook 252 Name origins 239 Reunion slides 215 Notable <strong>Plant</strong>s 191 DNA<br />

Mar 4283 Guestbook 370 Name origins 313 DNA 220 Journal contents 214 French origins<br />

Apr 2829 Guestbook 361 DNA 357 Name origins 270 French origins 266 Journal contents<br />

May 1236 Guestbook <strong>34</strong>8 Name origins 284 DNA 281 Usage stats 268 French origins<br />

Jun 1176 Guestbook 313 Name origins 287 DNA 271 Usage stats 252 French origins<br />

I have progressively made a number of revisions to the web site adding, in particular, a web<br />

page entitled “On a possible connection to <strong>Plant</strong>agenet”; this is accessible from the Name Origins<br />

page.<br />

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On a possible connection to <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

by Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> (Member No 52) March 2007<br />

There has been much debate about a possible connection between the <strong>Plant</strong> and <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

surnames. For example, an 1860 Surname Dictionary refers to an edition of the Leicester Mercury<br />

and states that <strong>Plant</strong> is a corruption of <strong>Plant</strong>agenet. In 1897, some further discussion appeared in<br />

Notes and Queries (Oxford University Press) [8th S., XII, Aug 28, ’97, p. 167]:<br />

PLANTAGENET. – Some time ago I read an account of a boy named <strong>Plant</strong> (residing<br />

in Warwickshire, I believe), whose grandfather had borne the royal name <strong>Plant</strong>agenet,<br />

but had changed it to <strong>Plant</strong>, thinking that the full name too grand for a poor man. The<br />

note proceeded to state that this boy, if Salic Law had been in force, would have been<br />

king of England. Can anyone tell me more of this, or inform me as to where I should<br />

obtain the note in question? ... PELOPS.<br />

There were replies [op. cit., Sept. 25, ’97, p. 258]:<br />

PLANTAGENET (8th S, xii. 167). – Some such note as this, of the name <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

shortened to <strong>Plant</strong>, may be found in Burke’s ‘Vicissitudes of Families.’ But there<br />

is no kind of verification, and the statement that the holder of the name would be king<br />

by Salic law must be taken with very great caution. ... C.F.S. Warren, M.A., Longford,<br />

Coventry.<br />

The Rev Anthony Bathe wrote from Paull, Yorks, the account of the boy <strong>Plant</strong> that<br />

PELOPS enquires about. It appeared in one of the daily papers - the Standard, I think<br />

- and Mr Bathe mentioned that the boy at that time was living at Paull. – R.H., Ely.<br />

Subsequent Surname Dictionaries have offered different opinions for the meaning of <strong>Plant</strong>; and,<br />

my own opinion, having studied the matter for many years, is that any connection between the<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> and <strong>Plant</strong>agenet surnames is cultural rather than genetic. That is not to say that the embellished<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>agenet claim does not provide a tidy explanation of some details of the more recently<br />

established evidence:<br />

• there is an indication of illegitimacy in the <strong>Plant</strong> blazon;<br />

• the <strong>Plant</strong>-like name, <strong>Plant</strong>yn or <strong>Plant</strong>eng’, belonged to a servant of the noble <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

descent which, like the place name, la <strong>Plant</strong>eland, can be related to de Warenne descendants<br />

of Geoffrey <strong>Plant</strong>egenest (ca.1250) to whom the name <strong>Plant</strong>e or Plont or <strong>Plant</strong> was nearby;<br />

and,<br />

• the spelling <strong>Plant</strong>t (a possible abbreviation) is found after the times of the royal House of York<br />

(for whom there is definite evidence that they used <strong>Plant</strong>agenet as a surname, ca.1450-1500),<br />

to which we can add that DNA evidence indicates that <strong>Plant</strong>t belongs to the same male-line<br />

family as <strong>Plant</strong>.<br />

However, on the other hand, it should be added that:<br />

• we can not simply presume that the name <strong>Plant</strong> referred to the generated (illegitimate) children<br />

of a generator of the realm; <strong>Plant</strong>egenest (or <strong>Plant</strong>agenet) can mean ‘a generator of the<br />

realm’, since Geoffrey <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest founded the Angevin Empire, and there is evidence in<br />

early English books to support such a meaning;<br />

• there were many others who could have been the forefather of the <strong>Plant</strong> offspring;<br />

• apart from a few references, such as ones to <strong>Plant</strong>egenest, <strong>Plant</strong>eng’ etc., it is not clear how<br />

much the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet name was in use when the <strong>Plant</strong> surname was first forming (ca.1250-<br />

1400); and,<br />

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• though no genealogical evidence would necessarily be expected for scattered bastards, there<br />

is none to prove that <strong>Plant</strong> and <strong>Plant</strong>t descended from <strong>Plant</strong>egenest and <strong>Plant</strong>agenet - a less<br />

presumptuous possibility is that a lesser mortal, perhaps one in awe of <strong>Plant</strong>egenest, fathered<br />

offspring with <strong>Plant</strong> as a surname as this held to the Welsh ‘offspring’ meaning of <strong>Plant</strong> and<br />

also matched the local Child by-name; in addition, the spelling <strong>Plant</strong>t suggests a possible<br />

allegiance to <strong>Plant</strong>egenest’s realm.<br />

Though this leaves just a hint of a possible cultural connection between the names <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

and <strong>Plant</strong>, it is important. This is because the development of the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet surname itself is<br />

controversial and the <strong>Plant</strong> surname can provide a few extra clues.<br />

The name “<strong>Plant</strong>agenet” was originally spelled <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest or <strong>Plant</strong>egenest or <strong>Plant</strong>aginet.<br />

It originated with Geoffrey of Anjou, father of King Henry II who ascended the English throne in<br />

1154. It is most commonly claimed that the name arose because Geoffrey wore a sprig of broom in<br />

his bonnet though perhaps otherwise that he planted it to improve his hunting covers or used broom<br />

to scourge himself. Its significance has been said to relate to its golden flower though, in my latest<br />

Nomina publication, I have postulated that it related culturally to the earlier name <strong>Plant</strong>apilosa and,<br />

thereby, to the development of contemporary belief in the vegetative soul.<br />

Though the name <strong>Plant</strong>agenet has been retroactively applied to the descendants of Geoffrey<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e Genest of Anjou, there is no contemporary evidence that the royal family used this surname<br />

before the mid fifteenth century; and so evidence for the intervening years of the development of<br />

similar names, such as <strong>Plant</strong>, is amongst the best available evidence when seeking onomastic clues<br />

for the significance of the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet surname. Recent Y-DNA and other evidence suggests a<br />

generative meaning, offspring, to <strong>Plant</strong> [J.S. <strong>Plant</strong> (2005) Nomina 28, pp. 115-33] and this suggests<br />

that generative aspects of the vegetable soul could have played a key role in the development of<br />

the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet surname. This is discussed further in: J.S. <strong>Plant</strong> (2007) ‘The tardy adoption of the<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>agenet surname’, Nomina, to appear in Vol. 30.<br />

The <strong>Plant</strong> name in Nomina publications<br />

by Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> (Member No 52) March 2007<br />

Nomina is the ‘Journal of the Society for Name Studies in Britain and Ireland’; it has been<br />

published annually since 1977. Its main focus has been on place names though it sometimes accepts<br />

articles about personal names and surnames. As mentioned earlier, I published an article in Volume<br />

28 of that journal:<br />

John S <strong>Plant</strong> (2005) Modern methods and a controversial surname: <strong>Plant</strong>, Nomina, 28, pp. 115-<br />

133.<br />

Since Nomina is a recognised academically and since the subject matter of my article included<br />

some semantics and metaphysics, the article has also been accepted on the eprints web-site for the<br />

Cognitive Sciences, where it appears at:<br />

http://cogprints.org/5462/<br />

By the way, the full text that currently appears there is not quite the final version; just a few changes<br />

were made after I sent the electronic text in to the editor of Nomina for printing.<br />

In June 2006, I asked the editor if she would be interested in a follow-on article about the<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>agenet name; and, after I had put my submission together and the journal referees had peer<br />

reviewed it, it was accepted in February. This second article, though finalised in January, will not<br />

appear in print until around the end of this year, with the title:<br />

John S <strong>Plant</strong> (2007) The tardy adoption of the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet surname, Nomina, 30, pp. 57-84.<br />

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This latter paper illustrates how a DNA study can lead on to important implications. The Y-DNA<br />

results presented in my first Nomina paper, together with other evidence, had suggested a generative<br />

meaning (offspring) for the <strong>Plant</strong> surname and this, in turn, lends weight to a metaphysical<br />

reappraisal of the royal <strong>Plant</strong>agenet name.<br />

Though eprint servers on the web began in 1991, this was just for academic papers on Theoretical<br />

High Energy Particle Physics. Such servers are rarer for Humanities subjects – the only Humanities<br />

eprint server so far is the cogprints server for the Cognitive Sciences which was launched in<br />

1997. In the Natural Sciences, such as Physics, it is becoming quite usual to make a paper available<br />

on the web even before it has been accepted for publication by the Journal referees. However, this<br />

practice is still frowned upon in the Humanities. It is hence no surprise that the editor of Nomina<br />

has asked me not to publish my second paper on the web until after paper copies of Volume 30 of<br />

Nomina have been circulated to their Society’s subscribers. In this connection, it is important to<br />

note that Nomina hold the copyright of the articles published in their journals even after they have<br />

appeared on the web on an eprints server.<br />

The subject of my second Nomina paper is, as its title suggests, mainly about the <strong>Plant</strong>agenets.<br />

Its final appendix, however, is about the <strong>Plant</strong> name and I am reproducing this below with the appropriate<br />

copyright notice. This Appendix summarises information that I have previously published<br />

in Roots and Branches with the addition of a few further points.<br />

Appendix D. Cultural context of the <strong>Plant</strong> surname — This Appendix is repro-<br />

duced on the understanding that its Copyright belongs to Nomina 30.<br />

An unwelcome influence on the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet name can be associated with the Welsh Marches where<br />

the word planta meant ‘to procreate’. Here, there is the English surname <strong>Plant</strong> (3756 phonebook<br />

entries in the UK) an understanding of which has recently been enlightened by Y-DNA findings 103 .<br />

These indicate that modern <strong>Plant</strong>s have a single-ancestor, rather than a multi-origin, surname.<br />

Though some family branches with early ‘<strong>Plant</strong>-like’ name spellings may have died out, much<br />

of the medieval evidence for the formative <strong>Plant</strong> surname might represent the travels of a single<br />

family.<br />

In the nineteenth century it was claimed that <strong>Plant</strong> was a corruption of <strong>Plant</strong>agenet 104 but there<br />

are other, less presumptuous possibilities. Though the <strong>Plant</strong> blazon indicates illegitimate cadetship,<br />

it is not clear to whom. Illegitimacy, however, can provide an explanation of why the Welsh meaning<br />

‘offspring’ of plant 105 could have been sufficiently noteworthy for its use as a surname. In Iowerth’s<br />

thirteenth-century codification of Welsh law, a bastard was treated equally with a legitimate child 106<br />

though that was not the case in Canon law. The <strong>Plant</strong> name could have purported to status in Wales<br />

though a bastard had no automatic right to inheritance or a father’s surname in England 107 .<br />

Though exaggerated claims of a <strong>Plant</strong>agenet connection should be debunked, it is possible that<br />

there was some cultural influence from the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet name to sustain the <strong>Plant</strong> surname’s attraction.<br />

This could have been through the diminutives <strong>Plant</strong>eng’ and <strong>Plant</strong>yn and a wider Welsh<br />

definition of plant: to wit ‘follower’ or ‘servant’. Roger <strong>Plant</strong>eng’ or <strong>Plant</strong>yn (1254-68) was<br />

103 J.S. <strong>Plant</strong> (2005) Modern methods and a controversial surname: <strong>Plant</strong>, Nomina, 28, pp. 115-33, esp. p. 119.<br />

104 M.A. Lower, A Dictionary of <strong>Family</strong> Names of the United Kingdom, (London and Lewes, 1860), p. 185. J. Sleigh, A<br />

<strong>History</strong> of the Ancient Parish of Leek, (Leek and London, 1862), p. 33.<br />

105 The Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru, ibid, defines plant 1 as: children, young persons; children (of parents), offspring<br />

(sometimes of animals), progeny, issue; descendants; followers, disciples, servants; persons regarded as product of a<br />

particular place, time, event, circumstances, etc.; ?boys, sons; also fig.<br />

106 D. Jenkins, Property interests in the classical Welsh law of women in D. Jenkins and M.E. Owen (ed) The Welsh law<br />

of women: studies presented to Professor David A. Binchy on his eightieth birthday, 3 June 1980, (University of Wales,<br />

1980), p. 51.<br />

107 Blackstone’s Commentaries of the Laws of England, Vol. I, ed. W. Morrison (London, 2001) pp. 352-53 states, ‘Yet<br />

he [a bastard] may gain a surname by reputation [Co. Litt. 3] though he has none by inheritance. All other children have<br />

a settlement in their father’s parish; but a bastard in the parish where born, for he has no father [Salk. 427]. ... A bastard<br />

may, lastly, be made legitimate, and capable of inheriting, by the transcendent power of an act of parliament, and not<br />

otherwise [4 Inst. 36]: as was done in the case of John of Gant’s bastard children, by a statute of Richard the second’.<br />

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utler to the earl of Norfolk 108 whose mother, Maud Marshal, held lands in the Welsh Marches.<br />

Maud’s marriages formed close ties amongst the Norfolk-Longspée-Warenne nobility 109 . As both<br />

the Longspées and the Warennes were illegitimate descendants of Geoffrey <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest, there<br />

could have been a connection between the <strong>Plant</strong>egenest name and that of Norfolk’s butler <strong>Plant</strong>eng’<br />

or <strong>Plant</strong>yn, perhaps inspired by the <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest nickname; and, moreover, further evidence indicates<br />

that a cultural influence could have extended locally to the names la <strong>Plant</strong>eland, <strong>Plant</strong>efolie and<br />

Plonte, though various other opinions have been proffered for <strong>Plant</strong>: sprig; cudgel; young offspring;<br />

from the plantation; gardener; or, a tender or delicate individual.<br />

As one possibility, it can be conjectured that the <strong>Plant</strong>s were a family from Wales, with a Welsh<br />

meaning to their name, who migrated around the coast to East Anglia. It may be relevant that royal<br />

galleys were in 46 ports around the south coast of England in 1205, from Gloucester to Lynn; and,<br />

in 1208, Welsh mariners were impressed into service 110 . The <strong>Plant</strong>s may have originated near the<br />

Chepstow (Strigul) estate of Maud Marshal (d 1248) with which there is reference to the manor of<br />

la <strong>Plant</strong>eland in 1310 111 though this is spelled Plateland in 1311 112 . The <strong>Plant</strong>s’ sea trade 113 and<br />

official duties may have become associated with Longspée and Warenne lands. Across the Bristol<br />

Channel from Maud’s Chepstow estate, there is evidence for the <strong>Plant</strong> surname in Somerset 114 in<br />

proximity to the Charlton lands of the Longspée descent. Between Charlton and Keynsham 115 was<br />

Robert Plonte of Saltford (c1280) who had been bailiff of Maresfelde – this may have been Marshfield<br />

116 with its market granted in 1265 to the Abbot and Convent of Keynsham 117 . Specifically in<br />

Somerset, there is evidence for the philandering name <strong>Plant</strong>efolie in 1226 followed by Plonte near<br />

Keynsham Abbey by c1280 and there is explicit evidence that the Plonte name was hereditary here<br />

by 1329 by when the Warennes held Charlton. There are some other coincidences of proximities<br />

of the <strong>Plant</strong>s to Warenne lands and, in particular, this offers an outline of how origins near Wales<br />

could have led on to the <strong>Plant</strong>s’ presence in Norfolk and then their subsequent main homeland of<br />

east Cheshire where the illegitimate Warenne descent also settled 118 .<br />

Another possibility, however, is that the <strong>Plant</strong> surname originated with the spelling Plente – the<br />

Middle English Dictionary lists plente and plante as variant spellings of plaunt. In 1219, Radulphus<br />

Plente 119 had responsibilities for the castle and royal palace (Woodstock 120 ) of Oxford. By 1262,<br />

there is the name William Plaunte in Essex 121 followed by the names William Plauntes (1275) 122 and<br />

108 J.S. <strong>Plant</strong> (2005) op. cit., p. 131.<br />

109 Maud Marshal married Longspée’s half brother and then the earl Warenne, becoming Countess of Warenne and<br />

Norfolk. She married Hugh le Bigod, earl of Norfolk (d 1225) and, in 1225, William Warren, earl of Surrey. She bore<br />

Roger le Bigod, earl of Norfolk and John de Warenne, earl of Surrey.<br />

110 This was done by king John in 1208 at Ilfracombe. A.L. Poole, op. cit., pp. 435-6.<br />

111 Callendar of Patent Rolls, 1310 Oct. 10, Carmyle.<br />

112 Callendar of Patent Rolls, 1311 March 7, Berwick-on-Tweed.<br />

113 There were three merchants at Rouen called de la Plaunt or Plaunt in 1273. Patent Rolls, May 30, St Pauls, London<br />

and June 2, 1273, Westminster.<br />

114 Ancient Deeds belonging to the Corporation of Bath: refs. BC 151/4/14, 151/4/15, 151/3/55, 151/2/46, 151/2/47,<br />

151/3/56, 51/2/44, 151/2/27, 151/2/48, 151/2/25, 151/6/70, 151/5/90, 151/2/43, 151/2/38 (in chronological order c1280c1360).<br />

115 A dependent chapel at Charlton had as its mother house the nearby Augustinian Abbey at Keynsham. ‘Houses of<br />

the Augustian canons: The abbey of Keynsham’, in A <strong>History</strong> of the County of Somerset: Volume 2 (Victoria County<br />

Histories, 1911), pp. 129-32. Keynsham Abbey was visited by Edward I in 1276 on his way from Bath to Bristol.<br />

116 This is recorded as Maresfeld in 1221. Ekwal, The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English place-names, (Oxford,<br />

1960), p. 316.<br />

117 Placita de Quo Warranto, Edward I-Edward III in Curia Receptae Scaccarii Westm. Asservati, ed. W. Illingworth<br />

(London, 1818), p. 249. An earlier market at Marshfield had been granted to the Abbot and Convent of Keynsham on 17<br />

Jan 12<strong>34</strong> but was levelled in August 12<strong>34</strong> because it was detrimental to that at Bristol: Close Rolls of the Reign of Henry<br />

III, 14 vols (London, 1902-38), 1231-<strong>34</strong>, pp. 369, 499, 502.<br />

118 J.S. <strong>Plant</strong> (2005) op. cit., pp. 131-2.<br />

119 3 Henry III Pipe Rolls. Also, Radulphus Plente, A cartulary of the Hospitals of St John the Baptist, ed H.E. Slater<br />

(Oxford, 1914) in Oxford Historical Society Publications, 68, p. 202.<br />

120 Though Beaumont Palace had been the king’s residence in the city of Oxford, the record refers to the king’s dwelling<br />

‘outside the town’ suggesting Woodstock where Henry II had frequently come for hunting. A.L. Poole, op. cit., pp. 236-7.<br />

121 Pleas of the Forest (PRO).<br />

122 Rotuli Hundrederum (London, 1812-18).<br />

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William Plente (1272-84) 123 in Norfolk records, perhaps all the same person. The loss of inflexion<br />

endings similar to the –e of Plente or <strong>Plant</strong>e or Plonte occurred later in the South West dialect region<br />

than in the West Midlands 124 where the spelling Plonte is mostly found. Hence, it could have been<br />

that it was the same name that developed into Plenty in the South West dialect region but <strong>Plant</strong> in the<br />

West Midlands. It is mainly in Somerset that the surname Plenty (a possible respelling of Plente) is<br />

now clustered. The Plente name may have originated with an ‘abundance’ or ‘fertility’ meaning 125 ;<br />

and then austere sentiments 126 could have led, by the mid-thirteenth-century, to an incentive to<br />

ameliorate the spelling of Plente to a less extravagant meaning; this could have produced <strong>Plant</strong>e and<br />

its dialect equivalent Plonte, though the spelling Plente is known to have survived outside the West<br />

Midlands into the fourteenth century 127 .<br />

It has not yet been DNA tested whether Plenty belongs to the same male-line family as <strong>Plant</strong> or<br />

whether this relates to similar names overseas. A notable Plente in the South West was the king’s<br />

minister in Devon, Roger Plente 128 , who for example, in 1364, was licensed ‘to take 20 packs of<br />

cloth of divers colours from the port of Exeter to Gascony, Spain, and other parts beyond seas;<br />

and to return with wine and other merchandise to the ports of London, Suthampton, Sandwich or<br />

Exeter’. It is not yet clear whether this relates to a cluster of the name spelling <strong>Plant</strong>e (817) or <strong>Plant</strong>ie<br />

(102) or <strong>Plant</strong>y (105) in modern Gascony, though recent advances in Y-DNA testing offer improved<br />

prospects for investigating the possible travels of single families despite possible variations in the<br />

spellings of their names.<br />

Most names have not yet been Y-DNA tested and there are, for example, no results to report for<br />

such names as <strong>Plant</strong>e in Spain (32), or the noble name <strong>Plant</strong>a in Switzerland (52), or the English<br />

name Somerset which is said to descend down intact male lines from the noble ‘<strong>Plant</strong>agenets’ (Beauforts).<br />

So far it can only be added that the initial Y-DNA results indicate that a French-Canadian<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e family 129 is genetically distinct from the main English <strong>Plant</strong> family 130 .<br />

In short, it is possible that there may have been some cultural influence from the <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest<br />

nickname but there is no evidence that the <strong>Plant</strong>s were genetically related to the <strong>Plant</strong>agenets. It is<br />

possible that the English <strong>Plant</strong>s began with an ‘abundant’ or ‘fertile’ meaning to their name, with<br />

the spelling Plente, and that this had been influenced by a ‘hairy shoot’ meaning to <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest.<br />

Though the nature of this influence may not seem immediately clear, a medieval study reveals that<br />

there was a metaphysical connection, since the plant powers (i.e. vegetable soul) of a ‘hairy shoot’<br />

(<strong>Plant</strong>agenet) brought forth the plenty (Plente) of growth and offspring. Then, with the spelling<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e or Plonte, the meaning of Plente could have been sanitised to ‘offspring’, if that was not<br />

indeed the meaning of the <strong>Plant</strong> surname from its outset for this family.<br />

123<br />

Norwich Cathedral Charters.<br />

124<br />

J.A. Burrow and T. Turville-Petre (1992) op. cit., pp. 3-4, 6-7, 20-21.<br />

125<br />

The MED defines plente as an alternative spelling of plaunt(e) or 1(a) abundance, prosperity, wealth; also, the<br />

goddess of abundance; ... [(b), (c), (d), (e), (f), (g) similar meanings] ... (h) fertility, productivity, fruitfulness; abundant<br />

production of crops, profusion of flowers; (i) generosity, bounty; 2(a) fullness, completeness, perfection; 2(b) full measure<br />

or number; totality; 2(c) satiety, satisfaction; 3 a projection of the extremity of a bone structure, Also, as an adjective:<br />

abundant, plentiful.<br />

126<br />

Both abundance and sexuality were renounced by the Franciscan ‘spirituals’ as well as the Cistercians. For example,<br />

the austere Joachim of Calabria (c1135-1202) became one of the most respected religious figures by the thirteenth century.<br />

Haft, White and White, The Key to “The Name of the Rose” (Ann Arbor, 1999), pp. 68-69).<br />

127<br />

e.g. John Plente, vicar of the cathedral church of Chichester, Patent Rolls 1<strong>34</strong>3; John Plente, witness at Theydene<br />

Boys, Close Rolls 1<strong>34</strong>3; Reynold Plente, Cornwall, Close Rolls 1393.<br />

128<br />

Patent Rolls 1364; Fine Rolls 1364; Patent Rolls 1365; Patent Rolls 1367; Patent Rolls 1368.<br />

129<br />

So far, only four members of this family have been Y-DNA tested of which three match each other but are genetically<br />

distinct from the main English <strong>Plant</strong> family.<br />

130<br />

So far twenty <strong>Plant</strong> males from England and North America have been Y-DNA tested of which eleven match, including<br />

two with the name spelling <strong>Plant</strong>t. When half or more match, the name can be said to be a single-family surname.<br />

Those that do not match can be expected to have descended, at some stage down the centuries, through a false paternity<br />

event (i.e. an event involving the adoption of the <strong>Plant</strong> surname though the true father was not a <strong>Plant</strong>).<br />

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Update on the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet Y-DNA project<br />

by Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> (Member No 52) June 2007<br />

Since 2001, I have been seeking a means of obtaining a Y-DNA signature for the <strong>Plant</strong>agenets.<br />

There are problems of obtaining Y-DNA, unlike mt-DNA, from ancient remains. The best chance<br />

is that of finding living male-line descendants of Geoffrey <strong>Plant</strong>e Genest (<strong>Plant</strong>agenet) and having<br />

them agree to be Y-DNA tested.<br />

The names Somerset (Beaufort), Cornwell and Warren have been associated with such descent<br />

and, more contentiously, in the nineteenth century so was <strong>Plant</strong>:<br />

http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/plantagenet.html<br />

Some Y-DNA results are already available for Cornwell, Warren and <strong>Plant</strong>; but, the general finding<br />

so far is that their Y-DNA signatures do not match and so they can not all be living male-line<br />

descendants of the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet family (unless, contrary to the normal assumption, the <strong>Plant</strong>agenets<br />

themselves did not have an intact male line of descent).<br />

In 2004, there was a ‘false alarm’. An individual called Waring was found to match exactly (genetic<br />

distance = 0) at the twelve-marker Y-DNA level, suggesting that his name might be a corruption<br />

of Warren, just as <strong>Plant</strong> was claimed in the nineteenth century to be a corruption of <strong>Plant</strong>agenet.<br />

When checked out at the twenty-five marker level, however, the genetic distance became 8, which<br />

demonstrates that this Waring and the <strong>Plant</strong>s were definitely not from the same male-line family.<br />

I have now found what may well turn out to be another ‘false positive’. An individual called<br />

Warren has been found who is a close match to the main <strong>Plant</strong> family (genetic distance = 1) at the<br />

twelve-marker Y-DNA level. It remains to be seen whether this Warren is amenable to extending<br />

his test to twenty-five markers to check whether this possible match is just another ‘false alarm’.<br />

Finding a ‘false positive’ match, at the twelve marker level, with someone with a different surname<br />

is not uncommon and it is usual to consider such a match to be a ‘true positive’ only if both testees<br />

have the same surname. In this instance, we are restricting the consideration to just a handful of<br />

surnames, and it is accordingly a little surprising that a close match has been found, given this<br />

restriction; but, without the confirmation of more markers, it is not adequately convincing that the<br />

reason why this Warren and most <strong>Plant</strong>s match is because they have inherited the unique <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

Y-DNA signature.<br />

It is generally held that the best documented male-line descendants of the royal <strong>Plant</strong>agenet<br />

kings of England are the Somerset (Beaufort) family; there are no Y-DNA results for them so far.<br />

Some further details of this family are given at the URLs:<br />

http://www.thepeerage.com/i1249.htm<br />

http://www.worldroots.com/foundation/britain/henrybeaufortgen1436.htm<br />

There has been an initial attempt by someone in the USA to contact this family’s most senior living<br />

descendant, the Duke of Beaufort, and a stated intent also to contact Lord Raglan. However, this<br />

has only met with a curt unhelpful response so far:<br />

http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/plantagenet/messages/1453.html<br />

There has been some speculation whether a more official approach by Professor Bryan Sykes of<br />

Oxford University might meet with more success and I have accordingly contacted Oxford Ancestors<br />

who have passed on my message to him. However, I have not received a response from him so<br />

far. I have also contacted our current testing company, <strong>Family</strong>TreeDNA, asking them if they could<br />

suggest an alternative authority to make the approach to the Duke; but, they have simply suggested<br />

that I should try to find addresses for the 60 or so documented members of the Somerset family<br />

and contact them myself. Perhaps, if I included a reprint of my upcoming Nomina 30 paper on the<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>agenets, this might help to break the ice; but finding the addresses for more than one or two of<br />

the documented Somerset (Beaufort) family seems likely to remain the biggest obstacle.<br />

<strong>Family</strong>TreeDNA are considering including a short piece about our <strong>Plant</strong>-like name project, including<br />

the <strong>Plant</strong>agenet aspect, in their Newsletter.<br />

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Update on the <strong>Plant</strong> Y-DNA project<br />

by Dr John S <strong>Plant</strong> (Member No 52) May 2007<br />

This report describes the latest results, which are summarised in Table 1. Results for the whole<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> Y-DNA project appear on the web at: http://www.plant-fhg.org.uk/dna.html<br />

Since the last report (November 2005), in Issue Number 31 of Roots and Branches, there are a<br />

few further Y-DNA results to report. It is still the case that slightly more than half of those with the<br />

name spelling <strong>Plant</strong> or <strong>Plant</strong>t have matched, indicating that these spellings correspond to a singleancestor<br />

surname.<br />

A further volunteer with the spelling <strong>Plant</strong>t (PT2a) has been found, like the earlier <strong>Plant</strong>t tested<br />

(PT1a), to match with the main English <strong>Plant</strong> family. Both these <strong>Plant</strong>ts match the PMH in Table 1,<br />

where PMH represents the most common Y-DNA signature for the <strong>Plant</strong> surname.<br />

A single volunteer from the German <strong>Plant</strong>s family (PS1a) has now been tested and has been<br />

found not to match. Though it is rather premature to generalise from a single result, this is not<br />

unduly surprising, as there was no particular reason to suppose that the spelling <strong>Plant</strong>s in the USA,<br />

which is believed to have German origins, would correspond to the same family as the main family<br />

with the spelling <strong>Plant</strong> or <strong>Plant</strong>t of medieval English origins.<br />

A further volunteer with the name spelling <strong>Plant</strong>e (PE2a) has been found to match with two<br />

others with this spelling (PE1b and PE1c). Thus, three out of four of the North American <strong>Plant</strong>es<br />

who have been tested match one another. This family relates to a French-Canadian <strong>Plant</strong>e family.<br />

However, this is a genetically distinct family from the main English <strong>Plant</strong>/<strong>Plant</strong>t family which is<br />

also found in North America.<br />

Two further people with the spelling <strong>Plant</strong> (P16a and P17a), who have been tested, have been<br />

found not to match. The results for P17a presented an unusual case. When twelve of his markers<br />

were measured, eleven of them matched to the main <strong>Plant</strong> family but the mismatching marker<br />

(DYS385b) was different by a value of three. It was uncertain whether this was a match, with just<br />

a single but unusual triple-step mutation at DYS385b, or even whether the testing company had<br />

made a mistake in measuring this particular marker. Alternatively, the genetic distance of 3 could<br />

be taken at face value and deemed to indicate that this <strong>Plant</strong> did not match with the main English<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> family. The testing company, <strong>Family</strong>Tree-DNA agreed that this was an unusual case, which<br />

it was difficult to interpret with certainty; they agreed to re-run the test: this confirmed that the<br />

measurement was correct. The <strong>Plant</strong> volunteer (P17a) hence agreed to extend his test to 25 markers,<br />

paying the additional fee, in the hope that this would resolve the matter once and for all. When<br />

the further results came in, the conclusion was more clear cut, since a further eight of the measured<br />

markers did not match. It hence became clear that this <strong>Plant</strong> did not descend from the main English<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> family.<br />

The most likely explanation is that somewhere in the descent of this <strong>Plant</strong> (P17a), at some<br />

generation down the centuries, there was a false paternity event – for example, this could have been<br />

an unfaithful wife who passed off the child with her husband’s name, or the child may have received<br />

the <strong>Plant</strong> surname following adoption from a different father, or an unmarried <strong>Plant</strong> mother may<br />

have passed her own name on to the child rather than the father’s. There was another possibility<br />

however. Since the paternal lineage of P17a can be traced back to Rutland, it can be noted that<br />

this is quite near the early south Lincolnshire cluster of <strong>Plant</strong>s, which is evident in pre-1700 <strong>Plant</strong><br />

Name Distribution data. We can not be certain that the south Lincolnshire <strong>Plant</strong>s originated with<br />

the same forefather as those in the main homeland of east Cheshire and north Staffordshire. It is<br />

still possible that the English <strong>Plant</strong> surname originated with more than one family and that we are<br />

getting a single-ancestor Y-DNA result simply because the east-Cheshire <strong>Plant</strong> family is swamping<br />

the overall picture we are getting so far from the Y-DNA results. However, if we apply Occam’s<br />

razor, which is sometimes called instead the scientific rule of parsimony, this states that, where<br />

there is doubt, we should make the simplest possible assumption. The simplest assumption, so far,<br />

remains that the English <strong>Plant</strong> or <strong>Plant</strong>t name originated from a single ancestor since there have<br />

been no more than the expected number of false paternity events down the centuries for the twenty<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>s and <strong>Plant</strong>ts who have so far been tested.<br />

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Branch Code Earliest known ancestor of branch<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Sheffield, P1a Thomas <strong>Plant</strong> of Clowne, ?b 1745 Sutton-cum-Duckmanton in NE Derbyshire to William<br />

England.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> of Duckmanton, England.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, USA. PT1a William <strong>Plant</strong>(t), b c1655, lived in VA.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>t, USA. PT2a<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>,<br />

Wales.<br />

Newport, P16a Charles <strong>Plant</strong>, b 1916 Birmingham, England<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>,<br />

Lincs.<br />

Stamford, P17a John <strong>Plant</strong> m Sarah Barsby at Morcott Church Rutland 31 March 1761<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>s, West Vir- PS1a Christian <strong>Plant</strong>s, b 21 Apr 1747 Bavaria, Germany; descent through Jacob <strong>Plant</strong>s, b c1807<br />

ginia, USA.<br />

Washington Co., Pensylvania, USA<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e, Quebec, PE1b Jean <strong>Plant</strong>e, sailed to Canada in 1647 from La Rochelle-Laleu, France; landed at Quebec<br />

Canada<br />

City, settled at Chateau Richer; descent through Francois b 1668 C.R. and Jos-Ambroise b<br />

1697 C.R.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e, Idaho, PE1c ditto; descent from Jean through his son Jean, then Louis, Joseph Marcel, Antoine, Jean<br />

USA<br />

Baptiste, Thomas, etc.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>e, Rich- PE2a Ernest <strong>Plant</strong>e (1918-91) Burlington, Vermont<br />

mond, VA, USA.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, Brough, P9a late 19th century Hull, Yorkshire, England<br />

Yorkshire.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>er, Zaragoza, PR1a Ramón <strong>Plant</strong>er (Goser) b 17.12.1844 Zaragoza; descent through Antonio <strong>Plant</strong>er (Sangor-<br />

Spain.<br />

rin) b Jun 1905 Zaragoza, Spain.<br />

<strong>Plant</strong>, NSW, Aus- P18a James <strong>Plant</strong> b 1783 Sibsey, Lincolnshire to Richard and Sarah (née Waltham); James sons<br />

tralia.<br />

emigrated to Australia.<br />

DYS PMH P1a PT1a PT2a P16a P17a PS1a PE1b PE1c PE2a P9a PR1a P18a<br />

19/394 14 14 14 14 15 14 14 13 13 13 14 14 14<br />

388 12 12 12 12 12 12 15 12 12 12 12 12 12<br />

390 24 24 24 24 24 24 22 24 24 24 24 24 24<br />

391 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 10 10 10 11 11 11<br />

392 13 12 13 13 13 13 11 11 11 11 13 13 13<br />

393 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13<br />

389-1 13 13 13 13 13 13 12 13 13 13 14 14 14<br />

389-2 29 29 29 29 29 29 28 30 30 30 30 30 30<br />

426 12 12 12 12 12 12 11 11 11 11 12 12 12<br />

425 12 12 12<br />

385a 11 11 11 11 11 11 13 16 16 16 12 11 13<br />

385b 14 14 14 14 12 11 14 18 18 18 15 15 15<br />

439 11 11 11 11 13 11 12 12 12 12 12 12 12<br />

458 18 18 19 17 15 16 17<br />

459a 9 9 9 9 8 9 9<br />

459b 10 10 10 10 9 9 10<br />

455 11 11 11 11 8 11 11<br />

454 11 11 11 11 11 11 11<br />

447 25 25 25 26 23 26 25<br />

437 16 16 16 15 16 14 14<br />

448 20 20 20 19 20 19 19<br />

449 30 30 30 31 28 35 31<br />

464a 15 15 15 15 12 14 15<br />

464b 15 15 15 16 14 16 15<br />

464c 16 16 16 17 15 16 16<br />

464d 16 16 16 17 15 18 18<br />

460 11<br />

GATA H4 11<br />

YCA IIa 19<br />

YCA IIb 21<br />

456 18<br />

607 15<br />

576 17<br />

570 20<br />

CDYa 36<br />

CDYb 37<br />

442 12<br />

438 12<br />

Table 1: Latest Y-DNA results for <strong>Plant</strong>, <strong>Plant</strong>t, <strong>Plant</strong>s and <strong>Plant</strong>e; and for a Spaniard called <strong>Plant</strong>er<br />

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Following on from this, it became possible that this situation might need to be re-considered in<br />

the light of a further volunteer (P18a) who came forward for testing. His earliest known ancestor<br />

is James <strong>Plant</strong>, born 1793 in Sibsey to parents Richard and Sarah (née Waltham); James’s sons<br />

emigrated to Australia. Sibsey is in south Lincolnshire, just to the north of Boston. The results for<br />

P18a, however, turned out not to be quite as expected: P18a did not match with the main English<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> family; nor did he match with P17a; but he was a close match to Walter <strong>Plant</strong> (P9a) whose<br />

result was discussed in the previous DNA Report.<br />

There was also a further development for Walter (P9a). His line was originally recorded as being<br />

from ”late nineteenth century Hull”, further up the east coast of England. However, by more recent<br />

research, he had traced his line back to his great-grandfather’s 1862 birth at Stickley, just north of<br />

Boston; and, moreover, his great-great-grandfather was William who was born 27.5.1832 at nearby<br />

Leake East Fen Allotment to John and Eliz (b 1791). The paper trail hence places the ancestors<br />

of Walter (P9a) not far from those of Bill (P18a) around 1800; and this goes some way towards<br />

explaining why their Y-DNA results indicate that there is a 67% chance that they had a common<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> ancestor within the last 24 generations. To check out this finding with more certainty, it would<br />

be beneficial if Bill (P18a) were to upgrade his Y-DNA test results from 12 to 25 markers, though<br />

this would entail Bill’s paying an extra fee. In the absence of extra information from further testing,<br />

we can nonetheless say that, when taken together, the paper trail and the Y-DNA results seem fairly<br />

convincing: there seems little doubt that both Walter and Bill were from the same south Lincolnshire<br />

family around 1800.<br />

It was also discussed, in the previous DNA report, that there was also a 67% chance that Walter<br />

(P9a) had a common ancestor in the past 24 generations with a Javier <strong>Plant</strong>er (PR1a) in Spain. Given<br />

the lack of a similar geographical location, not to mention the slight difference in surname, this<br />

was rather more surprising. It was speculated whether Walter (P9a) and Javier (PR1a) might both<br />

be descended from the Gascony <strong>Plant</strong>e family, for example, for whom we have no direct Y-DNA<br />

results so far. It can be added that Walter (P9a) recalls a family story that his line was from Holland,<br />

which might be in keeping with overseas origins. Ideally, further Y-DNA results are desirable to<br />

check out this apparent cluster of matching Y-DNA results more fully. Though Walter (P9a) has<br />

upgraded his Y-DNA results to 25 markers, Javier (PR1a) did not do likewise. Perhaps more clarity<br />

will emerge when, for example, some Gascony <strong>Plant</strong>es come forward to be tested.<br />

Thus, though the full details of the situation for Walter (P9a), Javier (PR1a) and Bill (P18a)<br />

are still not entirely clear, their results suggest a secondary Y-DNA <strong>Plant</strong> cluster, associated in<br />

part with south Lincolnshire around 1800. It is possible that this may relate back to the early<br />

south Lincolnshire cluster that is found in the pre-1700 <strong>Plant</strong> Name Distribution data. Whether this<br />

also relates to a family connection with Javier <strong>Plant</strong>er in Spain is not certain (just a 67% chance).<br />

However, this could offer one possible explanation of why this south Lincolnshire <strong>Plant</strong> family,<br />

around 1800, does not match with the main English <strong>Plant</strong> family: the south Lincolnshire <strong>Plant</strong>s<br />

may have originated overseas. It has to be added, however, that another possible explanation is that<br />

there was a false paternity event before 1800 in the descent of this south Lincolnshire <strong>Plant</strong> family;<br />

and, furthermore, if there is truly a family connection to Javier <strong>Plant</strong>er’s line in Spain, which he<br />

has traced back to around 1840, the connection could have originated with a south Lincolnshire<br />

<strong>Plant</strong> travelling to Spain rather than because the south Lincolnshire <strong>Plant</strong> cluster originated from<br />

overseas. Nonetheless, this illustrates how a fuller picture can begin to emerge, reaching back into<br />

earlier times, as more <strong>Plant</strong>s come forward to take the Y-DNA test.<br />

The test can also help to resolve fine details in more recent <strong>Plant</strong> family trees.<br />

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1873 OWNERS OF LAND<br />

‘The 1873 Owners of Land’ was published by parliament to act as a census for the land-owning classes and<br />

was intended to show with respect to England and Wales (exclusive of the Metropolis):-<br />

The number and names of owners of land of one acre and upwards, whether build upon or not, in each<br />

County. With the estimated average and annual gross estimated rental of the property belonging to each<br />

owner.<br />

Name of Owner Address of Owner Extend of Land Gross Estimated Rental<br />

A R P £ s<br />

Mrs <strong>Plant</strong> Pall Mall, SW 2 1 30 12 10<br />

Adams “ Leake Lincoln 30 2 22 55 -<br />

James “ “ “ 19 - 35 <strong>34</strong> 2<br />

Thomas “ Boston Lincoln 30- 2 - 257 7<br />

Thomas “ Mumby Lincoln 1 1 26 6 10<br />

Isaac “ Mosborough Derby 1 - 18 16 3<br />

John “<br />

John “<br />

Sheffield 4 3 32 17 2<br />

Gilbert “ Buxton Derby 18 3 - 19 17<br />

Joseph “ Woollay 9. 2 35 17 6<br />

Ann “ Sandbach Cheshire 35 - 36 388 2<br />

George “ Alsager “ 7 - - 54 -<br />

George “<br />

John “<br />

Wilmslow “ 3 2 25 49 5<br />

+ others Sandbach Cheshire 4 2 21 353 10<br />

Thomas “ Kelsal “ 22 - 9 382 -<br />

Abraham “ Woodwall Green, Staffs 11 2 3 23 -<br />

Benjamin “ Cheadle Staffs 1 1 10<br />

Catherine “ Longton “ 354 16<br />

Charles “ Croxton “ 40 - 28 78 15<br />

Charles “ Stanley “ 8 1<br />

65<br />

6 36 -<br />

Christopher “ Horton, Staffs 5 2 31 15 -<br />

Daniel “ Brierley Hill, Staffs 1 2 35 422 o<br />

Enock <strong>Plant</strong> Horton “ 4 2 1 31 -<br />

George “ (Jnr) Boxhall “ - 114 10<br />

George “ Longton “ 3 1 33 1 18<br />

George “ Tipton “ - 532 -<br />

George “ Yarnfield Stone “ 32 5 1 65 -<br />

George H “ Longton “ - 221 2<br />

Hannah “ Cheadle “ 2 1 5 10 -<br />

Hy + Rupert <strong>Plant</strong> Culton “ 1 2 27 31 12<br />

Isiah <strong>Plant</strong> Woodwall Green “ 2 1 13 8 12<br />

James “ Cheadle Staffs 4 2 11 49 -<br />

James “ Leek “ 2 - - 15 -<br />

John “ Bloxwich “ 2 - - 70 15<br />

John “ Brewood “ 5 2 14 94 -<br />

John “ Stafford “ 1 3 1 14 12<br />

Joseph “ Gnosall “ 1 2 36 13 -<br />

Matthew “ Haughton “ 53 2 25 91 18<br />

Richard “ Horton “ 2 - 9 9 12<br />

Richard “ Leek “ 15 2 4 25 -<br />

Robert “ Cheadle “ 5 3 21 55 6<br />

Thomas “ Cheadle “ 1 3 9 5 -<br />

Thomas “ Eccleshall “ 88 2 35 157 6<br />

Thomas “ Eadon “ 4 1 10 15 10<br />

Thomas “ Longton (Stone) “ 1 - 20 20 -<br />

Thomas “ Longton “ - 209 9<br />

Thomas “ West Bromwich “ - 47 5


William “ Gnosall “ 1 2 20 8 -<br />

William “ Longton “ 1 3 1 2 4<br />

William “ Newcastle “ 4 - 20 6 11<br />

William “ Tipton “ - 39 2<br />

William “ Waterhouses “ 7 2 13 50 2<br />

Henry “ Horham Suffolk 371 2 9 591 5<br />

William “ Workingworth “ 171 1 18 221 -<br />

Samuel “ Birly York 1 3 27 3 19<br />

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PLANT’S STEEL TOYMAKER BUSINESS<br />

WOLVERHAMPTON<br />

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By Liz <strong>Plant</strong> – Member No. 104<br />

I am not sure when my husband’s ancestors went into the Steel Toymaking Business, I have not managed to<br />

find out anything earlier than 1841. However, I have a feeling the family had been in the business earlier as<br />

Joseph is 50 on the 1841 Census.<br />

The direct line for my husband, William Hugh Denis <strong>Plant</strong>, born 15 th February 1933, died 15 th April 2003 is<br />

as follows:-<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> b approximately 1790 m Margaret Green.<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> c 14 th June 1819 m Sarah Pool.<br />

Stephen <strong>Plant</strong> b 6 th March 1854 m Sarah Louise Hart.<br />

William Hart <strong>Plant</strong> b 30 th October 1879 m Emily Jane Brown.<br />

Wilfred Harold <strong>Plant</strong> b 21 st September 1905 m Margaret Mabel Thomas.<br />

William Hugh Denis <strong>Plant</strong> b 15 th February 1933 m Elizabeth Jean Brown.<br />

See Charts 1, 2, 3 and 4, for more in depth information on the families.<br />

Information gathered from the Census.<br />

The 1841Census shows Joseph <strong>Plant</strong>, a Steel Toymaker aged 50, living with his family at St. James Square,<br />

Wolverhampton with his wife, Margaret, aged 50. That makes them both born around 1790. (not yet proved)<br />

The census tells me they had three sons, Joseph aged 19, Stephen aged 17, William <strong>Plant</strong> aged 10 and a<br />

daughter, Elizabeth, aged 14.<br />

On the same census in Steel House Lane there is another William <strong>Plant</strong>, a Steel Toymaker aged 20 and his<br />

wife, Sarah, aged 25.<br />

However, I do have proof this William was christened on the 14 th June 1819 and his parents were<br />

Joseph and Margret.<br />

William married Sarah Pool on the 19 th November 1840.<br />

I wonder if the William <strong>Plant</strong> living with Joseph is his grandson or nephew, will investigate further.<br />

According to Joseph’s will he had a daughter, Mary Ann, christened 25 th December 1811, married to Joseph<br />

Garret and Sarah christened 21 st July 1815, married to John Ford. There were two other daughters, Phoebe,<br />

born 9 th November 1813 and, Rebecca, born 1817.<br />

The 1851 census tells us that Margaret <strong>Plant</strong>, aged 60, is now a widow living in Poole Street, Wolverhampton<br />

and running the business, Corkscrew & Steel Toymaker, employing 12 men and 8 boys. Her son, Joseph,<br />

now a widower, Steel Toymaker, aged 29 is there plus a servant and a lodger.<br />

Next door to them is William <strong>Plant</strong> Corkscrew & Steel Toymaker, aged 31, with his wife, Sarah, aged 25,<br />

and daughters Elizabeth, aged 8, Sarah, aged 4, Phoebe, aged 2 and son, William Joseph, aged 5 months, and<br />

nephew, William <strong>Plant</strong>, aged 20, a corkscrew apprentice.<br />

I wonder if this William is the same one on the 1841 census living with Joseph.<br />

The 1861 census shows that William Steel, Toymaker, aged 41 is living at 105 Poole Street, Wolverhampton<br />

and running the business employing 14 men and 5 boys. Sarah, his wife, is now 46, daughter Phoebe, aged<br />

12, son William J, aged 10, Stephen his son, aged 7, plus his niece, Louisa Garrett, aged 16.<br />

Next door at 104 Poole Street finds Joseph <strong>Plant</strong>, aged 39, Steel Toymaker, Mary Ann, his wife, aged 32, son<br />

Joseph W, aged 12, and daughter, Clara, aged 2 monts.


1871 census living at 105 Poole Street is William, Steel Toymaker, aged 51, his wife, Sarah, aged 58, their<br />

son, Stephen, aged 17, plus his niece, Louisa Garrett, aged 26.<br />

1881 census living at 105 Poole Street are William, Steel Toymaker, aged 62, employing 29 men and 3 boys.<br />

His wife, Sarah, aged 39, Stephen his son, aged 27, Steel Toymaker, daughter-in-law, Sarah Louisa, aged 27,<br />

and grandson, William H, aged 1.<br />

Also on the 1881 census at 16 Mander Street there is Joseph Walter <strong>Plant</strong>, aged 32, a Brass Founder, his wife,<br />

Louisa, aged 36, daughter, Ellen, aged 8, son Joseph Henry, aged 7, his sister Clara, aged 20, and his brother,<br />

William, aged 17. This Joseph Walter <strong>Plant</strong> is aged 12 on the 1861 census, was living at 104 Poole Street,<br />

with his father, Joseph, (a steel toymaker) and mother, Mary Ann.<br />

The 1891 census shows William <strong>Plant</strong> now a widower, aged 71, Steel Toymaker, his son, Stephen, aged 37,<br />

Steel Toymaker, daughter-in-law, Sarah Louisa, aged 37, Wm H <strong>Plant</strong>, his grandson, aged 11, and his<br />

granddaughter, Lilian H <strong>Plant</strong>, aged 5.<br />

1901 Census yet to be investigated.<br />

After Joseph’s death, approximately 1884 (still to be proved) and in the year 1873, his son, William, applied<br />

for Letters Patent for Clipping Horses. This was sealed on the 27 th December 1874 and dated 29 th October<br />

1873, No. 3516, to William <strong>Plant</strong> of Wolverhampton. WKP note: Copies of this Patent are available if<br />

required.. W & J (this brother Joseph) exhibited at Wolverhampton Art and Industrial Exhibition in 1902 and<br />

at The Royal Agricultural Hall, London, 1903. (See later in article, photocopies).<br />

I also found in Kelly’s Directory 1884, an advert for <strong>Plant</strong>’s Patent Horse Clipper in the County Adverts<br />

section also in the Staffordshire telephone Directory dated 1884, an entry for them. (see later).<br />

In 1992 I wrote and sent the advert from Kelly’s Directory to Companies House to see if they could give any<br />

information on W & J <strong>Plant</strong> business, unfortunately, they could not, as no record of the company exists,<br />

probably because the company was not registered as a Ltd company..<br />

When Stephen <strong>Plant</strong> died in 1895 he left everything to his wife, Sarah Louisa <strong>Plant</strong>. His father William died<br />

in 1906. William Hart <strong>Plant</strong>, (Stephen’s son) Steel Toy Manufacturer, wound up the business between end of<br />

1912 early 1913. The Bloomsbury works was known as the <strong>Plant</strong> site and was sold to Sunbeam, makers of<br />

cars and bicycles and later sold to GE Marshalls, then sold to ICI.<br />

I heard the other day, talking to a member of the family, that Marsden’s bought the factory but I wonder if<br />

they meant Marshalls. (More investigation to be done).<br />

When Denis & I attended the “The <strong>Plant</strong> <strong>Family</strong> <strong>History</strong> <strong>Group</strong>” Millennium Reunion in Chelford in June<br />

1999, we met a gentleman name Bill<strong>Plant</strong>, who lived at 298 Newhampton Road West, Wolverhampton. We<br />

started to write to each other, he found out some information on the Steel Toymaker business. [WKP note.<br />

Copies of this letter are available if required].<br />

When William Hart <strong>Plant</strong> sold to Sunbeam he worked for them and later for a company named Metal<br />

Products in Willenhall, Staffordshire.<br />

As far as I am aware the Steel Toymaker business finished for this line of the family when it was sold. I have<br />

not investigated the descent on other branches from Joseph born 1790. If you have any information on them,<br />

is it possible you could please let me have it or guide me in the right direction.<br />

To complete our line to present day is as follows:<br />

Wilfred Harold <strong>Plant</strong> b 21 st September 1905 at 11 Cardiff Street, Wolverhampton was a Metallurgical<br />

Chemist he m Margaret Mabel Thomas 11 th December 1932. He died 3 rd May 1964 in Coventry. They had<br />

three sons, William Hugh Denis b 1933, Peter Robert b 1937 and Christopher Paul b 1938, all born in<br />

Coventry.<br />

From 1932 to October 1949, he was employed by Sterling Metals, who were based at Gypsy Lane, Nuneaton,<br />

Warwickshire. During that time he worked on Micrography, Metallurgical Analysis and in 1940 as a<br />

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Radiologist for light metals. About 1950 he became a textile Chemist, in the laboratories at Courtaulds,<br />

Foleshill Road, Coventry, and continued to work there until his death in May 1964.<br />

William Hugh Denis b 1933 at 54 Kempas Highway, Coventry m Elizabeth Jean Brown, 14 th September<br />

1957. They have a daughter, Claire Elizabeth <strong>Plant</strong> b 3 rd January 1960. William is known in the family as<br />

Denis and as Bill in his professional work. His profession was a metallurgist working in the laboratories for<br />

Dunlop Rim & Wheel, Coventry, whilst working there he worked on the Bluebird car driven by Donald<br />

Campbell and the Comet airplane. He became a Freeman of the City of Coventry in 1958.<br />

In 1962 found him working for Massey Ferguson. In 1965 he went to work for International Nickel at<br />

Thames House, London. In 1972 he was offered a position with a South African Company called Impala; to<br />

set up a London office named Impala UK within another company they owned named Ayrton Metals. Whilst<br />

he was with Impala UK he was asked to join the European Committee and it was during his term of office on<br />

this committee the Platinum Hall Mark for platinum jewellery was formed and became compulsory.<br />

In 1977 Denis decided to become a Consultant, so he started his own company called Edenbridge Metals Ltd.<br />

He worked from home so it was goodbye to the dining room in which he installed 3 desks, 2 filing cabinets,<br />

photocopier, typewriter, etc., you name it and it was there plus a secretary and an accounts person.<br />

In due course the company bought an office building in Edenbridge and became agents for a company in<br />

West Germany.<br />

He also became a consultant for the Nickel Development Institute known as NiDi; head office was in<br />

Toronto, Canada. His specialisation for them was on Air Pollution in particular Flue Gas Desulphurastion<br />

known as FGD, he travelled worldwide giving lectures and Presentations. It was whilst working on this<br />

project Denis became a Fellow of the Metallurgical Institute.<br />

Denis was also a consultant to the International Committee for Industrial Chimneys known as CICIND. He<br />

wrote a Metallic Materials Manual for them, unfortunately, he died before it was completed late 2003. In<br />

March 2004 the manual was printed. At the beginning of the manual in the Background section 1.2 reads:-<br />

“This manual has developed over several years under the chairmanship of WHD (Bill) <strong>Plant</strong>, a long-standing<br />

member of CICIND and tireless contributor to our Codes, Manuals and technical meetings. It is with great<br />

sadness that we record here that Bill died suddenly with the end of his work in sight. The President,<br />

Governing Body and members of CICIND all gratefully acknowledge the debt they owe Bill for his work on<br />

this document and for his chairmanship of the Metallic Materials Committee. Moreover, they all feel his loss<br />

keenly as both friend and colleague. The Metallic Materials Manual stands as a reminder of his great<br />

contribution to CICIND.”<br />

For his 60 th Birthday in 1993, his brothers and their family’s gave him a day out at the Railway Museum at<br />

Tysley. He had a wonderful day fulfilling his dream of driving a steam train.<br />

Denis became a Town Counsellor for Edenbridge in 1984 and fought for the rights of the inhabitants of<br />

Marlpit Hill, an area to the north of Edenbridge. One of his project was to get lighting and a path under the<br />

Railway Bridge at Marlpit Hill, about 15 years previously a child had been killed there.<br />

He was also a founder member of the Edenbridge round Table. After reaching the ripe age of 40 he became a<br />

member of the 41 club which is an extension of the Round Table. He was invited and joined Edenbridge &<br />

District Rotary Club. Denis died on 15 th April 2003 after having a stroke.<br />

Note: Because Denis was interested in Photography, Motor Racing (he would like to have been a racing<br />

driver) and Metallurgy, it was very difficult for him to decide which profession to follow. However,<br />

Metallurgy won, the photography was very important to the work he did in the business world. Motor Racing<br />

was a great way to relax and was delighted on becoming a Scrutineer. Photography was a great passion and<br />

helped him in all aspect of his life.<br />

Claire Elizabeth Collins nee <strong>Plant</strong> b 3 rd January 1960 in Coventry m Ronald Geoffrey Collins on 28 th July<br />

1984. They have 2 sons, James Thomas Collins b 7 th May 1986 in Truro, Cornwall and Lawrence Alexander,<br />

b 1988 in Dorchester, Dorset. Claire is a Physiotherapist, working at Blandford Hospital, Blandforum,<br />

Dorset.<br />

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PLANT CHART No. 1<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> = Margaret Green<br />

b 1790 b 1790<br />

d after 1841 d after 1851<br />

Census Census<br />

Mary Ann = Joseph Pheobe Sarah = John Rebecca William = Sarah Joseph = Mary Stephen Elizabeth<br />

C25/12/1811 Garrett b 9/11/1813 b 21/7/1815 Ford b 1817 c 14/6/1819 Pool b 2/1/1822 Ann b 9/5/1824 b 1826<br />

d 24/1/1906 b 1815 b 1829 =<br />

m 10/11/1840 Martha<br />

Louise<br />

b 1845<br />

d after 1881 Census b 1821<br />

Elizabeth Sarah Pheobe William Stephen<br />

b 8/6/1842 b 20/6/1846 b 5/8/1848 Joseph b 6/3/1854<br />

= = b 5/10/1850 d 6/7.1895<br />

Richard John =<br />

Stubbs Ellershaw Sarah Louise Hart<br />

See <strong>Plant</strong> Chart No. 2<br />

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See <strong>Plant</strong> Chart No. 4


PLANT CHART No 2<br />

Stephen <strong>Plant</strong> = Sarah Louise <strong>Plant</strong><br />

b 6/3/1854 c 19/6/1853<br />

d 6/7/1895 m 18/7/1878<br />

William Hart = Emily Jane Brown Lilian Hart = Charles Harold White<br />

b 30/10/1879 b 15/5//1878 b 12/2/1886 b 25/11/1886<br />

d 14/10/1958 m 17/3/1900<br />

d 9/5/1955<br />

Stephen Jean Marjorie<br />

These are the known children – there were about 7.<br />

William Doris Wilfred Marjorie = Robert Winifred = Clarence<br />

Stephen Emily Harold Lilian Edward Margaret Ewart<br />

b 4/8/1900 b 16/1/1902 b 21/9/1905 b 19/12/1907 Price b 19/1/1913 Clift<br />

d very young m = Ivor Wilkes d 3/5/1964 m 20/5/1944 b 25/11/1902 b 7/5/1894<br />

= d 29/1/19 d/25/6/1972 d 18/11/1999 d 17/2/1983<br />

Margaret Mabel<br />

Thomas b 3/5/1908<br />

Susan Jane = Malcolm David Roger Keith Alister<br />

Patrick David See <strong>Plant</strong> Chart b 5/8/1947 Kelsey b 19/7/1943 Marvin<br />

Hart Leslie No. 3 m 2/9/1968 b 14/9/1943 = b 8/5/1947<br />

b27/3/19<strong>34</strong> b 22/8/1936 Sylvia Elizabeth Owen<br />

= May Camilleri Mark David = Adam Paul b 10/1/1947<br />

b 30/5/1936 b 14/2/1974 b 7/7/1976 m 1/4/1970<br />

m 14/11/1974 in Malta<br />

Joanne Elizabeth Sally Angela<br />

Charles b 19/7/1978 b 12/10/1981<br />

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PLANT CHART No 3<br />

Wilfred Harold <strong>Plant</strong> = Margaret Mabel Thomas<br />

b 21/9/1905 b 3/5/1908<br />

d 3/5/1964 m 11/12/1932<br />

d 5/11/1974<br />

William = Elizabeth Peter = Susan May Christopher = Ann Read<br />

Hugh Jean Robert Brown Paul nee West<br />

Denis Brown b 2/10/1937 b 24/4/1948 b 27/11/1938 b 8/6/1937<br />

b 15/2/1933 b 3/10/1935 m 2/1/1971 m 26/2/1971<br />

d 15/4/2003 m 14/9/1957<br />

Claire = Geoffrey William Simon Christopher Michael Read<br />

Elizabeth Ronald Collins Thomas Langden Grahame Read<br />

b 3/1/1960 b 30/1/1956 b 12/4/1974 b 6/6/1976<br />

m 28/7/1984<br />

=<br />

Georgina<br />

James Lawrence Heathcote<br />

Thomas Alexander b<br />

b 7/5/1986 b 22/4/1988 m 26/8/2006<br />

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PLANT CHART No 4<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> = Margaret Green<br />

B 1790 b 1790<br />

Joseph = May Ann Stephen = Martha<br />

b 2/1/1822 b 1829 b 9/5/1824 b 1821<br />

Joseph Walker Clara William<br />

b 1849 b 1861 b 1864<br />

=<br />

Louisa<br />

b 1845<br />

Ellen Joseph Henry<br />

b 1873 b 1874<br />

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See Chart No. 1<br />

Stephen Caroline Martha Thomas Henry Natiala Alice Emily J<br />

b 1850 b 1851 b 1853 b 1854 b 1858 b 1859 b 1860


PLANT’S PATENT POWER HORSE CLIPPER<br />

STAND PATTERN<br />

Model No. 1. Retail price, complete, £6.10.0.<br />

This Superior Machine is fitted with our Patent Lock Action, which enables it to be regulated to any height,<br />

and to be worked with one hand, thus allowing the boy at the wheel to change hands if necessary. It also<br />

dispenses with the heavy weight required to balance some machines, and is a great improvement on those that<br />

are fixtures. With an improved new small geared union, for allowing perfect freedom of shaft from head of<br />

Machine.<br />

The Extra Light Flexible Shaft, with cover (bending in any and every direction) has no chain attachment,<br />

therefore requires no grease to work it, thus preventing the accumulation of dirt, thereby rendering the<br />

Clipping Process much cleaner, and allows the most difficult parts of the Horse to be easily and cleanly<br />

clipped without the aid of heavy wrist joints.<br />

The attachment is most simple, requiring only a turn of the wheel to connect both shaft and knife. It is<br />

movable in the socket of an absolutely firm stand with extended feet.<br />

The Machine can be had to run NOISELESSLY, price complete, £6.0.0.<br />

Packed complete, with extra set of knives and all accessories.<br />

MODEL No. 1a. – With a very large driving wheel, giving tremendous speed, etc. Price complete, £7.0.0.<br />

May be had in superior quality and finish, £8.10.0.<br />

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EXHIBIT AT ROYAL AGRICULTURAL HALL, LONDON 1903<br />

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COUNTY ADVERTISEMENTS<br />

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1841 CENSUS<br />

St James Square<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> Head Steel Toymaker 50<br />

Margaret Wife 50<br />

Joseph Son “ “ 19<br />

Stephen Son App. “ “ 17<br />

Elizabeth Dau 14<br />

William Son 10<br />

Wm Whittinham “ “ 15<br />

Wm Gill “ “ 15<br />

James Byron “ “ 15<br />

Eliza Davis Dom Servant 15<br />

Steel House Lane<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> Head Steel Toymaker 20 “ “<br />

Sarah Wife 25 “ “<br />

The above William is Joseph’s son.<br />

1851 CENSUS<br />

Still at Poole Street but no house numbers listed this time but it seems there are two families living next door<br />

to each other, 104 & 105 – in the Ecclesiastical ward – St Pauls.<br />

Margaret <strong>Plant</strong> Widow Corkscrew & Steel Toymaker<br />

12 Men and 8 boys. 60<br />

Joseph (Widower) Son Steel Toymaker 29<br />

Ann Bovelle Servant House Servant 20<br />

James Fellows Lodger Japannan 32 ??<br />

And NEXT DOOR<br />

Wm <strong>Plant</strong> Head Corkscrew etc 31<br />

Sarah Wife As above states 25<br />

Elizabeth Dau 8<br />

Sarah Dau 4<br />

Pheobe Dau 2<br />

Wm Joseph Son 5mths<br />

Wm <strong>Plant</strong> Nephew C. Screw Apprentist 20<br />

Jane Fellows Servant House Servant 13<br />

In the 1900 Kellys Directory is the following:<br />

William & Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> Manufactures of Horse Clippers at 105 Poole Street, Wolverhampton.<br />

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1861 CENSUS<br />

105 Poole Street<br />

William Head Steel Toymaker<br />

(Emp. 14 men + 5 boys) 41 W’ton Staffs<br />

Sarah Wife 46 “ “<br />

Phoebe Dau Scholar 12 “ “<br />

William J Son Scholar 10 “ “<br />

Stephen Son Scholar 7 “ “<br />

Louisa Garrett (um) Niece Help in house 16 Marylebone Mx<br />

James Fellows Boarder Japanner 42 W’ton Staffs<br />

And next door at 104 Poole Street<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> Head Steel Toymaker 39 W’ton Staffs#<br />

Master<br />

Mary Ann Wife 32 “ “<br />

Joseph W Son Scholar 12 “ “<br />

Clara Dau 2 mhs “ “<br />

Diana Watkins S’vant House Servant 15 Amerley-Herts<br />

I think Joseph’s wife, Mary Ann, is his second as he was a widower on the 1851 Census, I am certain he is<br />

William’s brother so I will have to prove it at some time.<br />

AND at Pipers Row<br />

Stephen <strong>Plant</strong> Head Smithy 36 W’ton Staffs<br />

Martha Wife 40 “ “<br />

Stephen Son 11 “ “<br />

Caroline L or S Dau 10 “ “<br />

Martha A Dau 8 “ “<br />

Thomas H Son 7 “ “<br />

Natiala Dau 3 “ “<br />

Alice Dau 1 “ “<br />

Emmily J Dau 9 mths “ “<br />

I think Stephen is also William’s brother, will have to prove.<br />

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1871 CENSUS<br />

105 Poole St – Municipal Ward – St Johns<br />

Wm <strong>Plant</strong> Head Steel Toy Maker 51<br />

Sarah Wife 58<br />

Stephen Son “ “ 17<br />

Louise Garrett (um) Niece Dom Servant 26 “ “<br />

1881 CENSUS<br />

105 Poole Street<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> Head Steel Toymaker<br />

(Emp 29 men and 3 boys) 62 W’ptn – Staffs<br />

Sarah wife 69 “ “<br />

Stephen Son 27 “ “<br />

Sarah Louise D/Law 27 “ “<br />

William H G/Son 1 “ “<br />

Janet Reid S’vnt House Servant 18 Dudley Worcs<br />

16 Mander Street, Municipal Ward – St Johns<br />

Joseph Walter <strong>Plant</strong> Head Brass Founder 32 “ “<br />

Louise Wife 36 London<br />

Ellen Dau Scholar 8 W’ptn<br />

Joseph Henry Son 7 “<br />

Clara Sister Milliner 20 “<br />

William Brother Hardwear 17 “<br />

Factors Clerk<br />

1891 CENSUS PLANT<br />

105 Poole St – Wolverhampton, Municipal Ward – St. Johns<br />

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Age Born<br />

Wm <strong>Plant</strong> – Widower (Head) Steel Toymaker 71 W’ptn – Staffs<br />

Stephen - Son “ 37 “ “<br />

Sarah Louise D/Law 37 “ “<br />

Wm H <strong>Plant</strong> G.Son Scholar 11 “ “<br />

Lilian H <strong>Plant</strong> G/Dau 5 “ “<br />

Sarah Jones Dom Servant 20 Cradley Hth<br />

In the 1900 Kelly’s Directory is the following:<br />

William & Joseph <strong>Plant</strong>, Manufacturers of Horse Clippers at 105 Poole Street, Wolverhampton.


<strong>Plant</strong> extracts<br />

MORMON IMMIGRATION<br />

Ship - Amazon<br />

Date of Departure 4 June 1863<br />

Port of Departure London<br />

Date of Arrival 18 July 1863<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Onward travel – All immigrants (882) reached Florence, Nebraska a few days after arrival at New York.<br />

Included in the Passenger list were: -<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> age 59 born 1804 Occupation, Silk Twister<br />

Mary A <strong>Plant</strong> age 57 born 1806 Occupation, Wife.<br />

Ship - William Tapscott<br />

Date of Departure - 11 May 1860<br />

Port of Departure - Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival - 16 June 1860<br />

Port of Arrival - New York<br />

The ship which included 312 Scandinavians in the Total of 731 emigrants set sail from Liverpool on 11 May<br />

1860. Owing to cold and a change of diet, considerable sickness occurred during the voyage and ten deaths<br />

were reported.<br />

On 3 June, smallpox broke out, and seven cases of the disease were reported though none proved fatal.<br />

On Friday evening, 15 June, the ship arrived at the quarantine dock in New York. The next day two doctors<br />

came on board and vaccinated all the storage passengers, a number of cabin passengers and the ships crew.<br />

After being detained in quarantine five days the passengers were landed at Castle Gardens, New York, on 20<br />

June.<br />

The passengers with smallpox were taken ashore and placed in a hospital and on the 21 st the remaining<br />

passengers left New York by steamboat and sailed up the Hudson River to Albany where they arrived on the<br />

22 nd . From Albany, the journey continued by mule trains via Rochester to Niagara Falls.<br />

The journey was continued through Canada along the north shore of Lake Erie to Windsor where they crossed<br />

the river to Detroit and proceeded to Chicago which they reached on 25 th June.<br />

From Chicago, the party travelled by railroad to Quincy where they crossed the Mississippi River to Hannibal<br />

and thence by railroad to St. Joseph, Missouri. Here 13 persons were placed in a hospital, but after<br />

examination, were found to be well enough to join the company the following day on the trip up the Missouri<br />

River to Florence, Nobraska where the company arrived in the night of 30 th June.<br />

There followed the journey across the plains considered the hardest part of the journey due to it being a low,<br />

wet area, the nature of the soil (clay) rendering the roads almost impossible.<br />

Arriving at Florence, the travellers found shelter in a number of empty houses while they made the necessary<br />

preparations for crossing the plains.<br />

A handcart company consisting of 126 people, travelling with 22 handcarts and 6 wagons left Florence on<br />

their westward journey on 6 th July. After a journey of 81 days the company arrived in Salt Lake City on 24 th<br />

September having suffered all the hardships involved in all handcart travel.<br />

Included in the Passenger list was:<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> age 59, born 1801, Occ Blacksmith.<br />

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Assuming leaving home a few days before sailing from Liverpool and that he lasted the full journey to Salt<br />

Lake City, he would have been travelling from early May to end September. However, the fall-out rate was<br />

high and it is possible that he was a number of the subsequent ‘trains’, 400 people arriving in Salt Lake City<br />

on 5 th October and a further 123 people arriving at a later date still.<br />

Ship Constitution<br />

Date of Departure 24 th June 1868<br />

Port of Departure Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 6 th August 1868<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

The ship sailed for New York on the 24 th June having 457 people on board, 412 being from the British Isles.<br />

The packet ship Constitution was the last sailing vessel used for the transportation of Mormon missionaries<br />

across the Atlantic. It arrived at New York 6 th August and the immigrants continued by rail to Benton.<br />

Included in the Passenger list were: -<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> age 32 born 1836<br />

Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> age 32 born 1836<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> age 28 born 1840<br />

Sarah Ann <strong>Plant</strong> age 7 born 1861<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> age 3 born 1865<br />

Emily <strong>Plant</strong> age Infant born 1868<br />

WKP note – In order to trace the family in the UK before they emigrated, I looked at the 1861 Census and<br />

found:<br />

1861 Census Batteslow, Longton, Stoke on Trent<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> Lodger U 20 Ag. Lab. Bn Leicestershire<br />

And then next door:<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> Head M 25 bn Cadeley, Leics<br />

Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> Wife M 25 bn Dorington, Leics<br />

Sarah Anne <strong>Plant</strong> Dau 1m bn Stoke on Trent, Staffs<br />

So lets look at the 1851 Census for Cadeley, Leicester.<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> Head M 73 Ag. Lab. Bn Mkt Bosworth, Leics<br />

Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> Wife M 72 Wife bn Leistershire<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> Son W 37 Ag. Lab bn Mkt Bosworth, Leics<br />

Edwin <strong>Plant</strong> G.S. 12 Scholar bn Cadeby, Leics<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> G.S. 11 Scholar bn “ “<br />

Ambrose <strong>Plant</strong> G.S. 6 Scholar bn Newbold, Leics<br />

Eliza <strong>Plant</strong> G.D. 3 bn “ “<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> Nephew 15 bn Cadely, Leics<br />

The 1841 Census gives the following:<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> 60 Framework Knitter bn Leicestershire<br />

Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> 60 “<br />

Benjamin <strong>Plant</strong> 8 “<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> 8 “<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> 2 “<br />

John <strong>Plant</strong> 25 “<br />

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Enough evidence here to confirm that Henry & Joseph listed as passengers are the same as shown in the<br />

various Census return particularly as Henry & Joseph do not appear on the 1871 Census. To be absolutely<br />

certain it would, of course, be necessary to do a deeper investigation.<br />

To confirm the above findings I then had a look at the US Census for 1880 and found the following.<br />

Census Place Richmond, Cache, Utah<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> Self M M 44 bn England<br />

Sarah <strong>Plant</strong> Wife F M 44 “ “<br />

Sarah Anne <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 19 “ “<br />

Henry F <strong>Plant</strong> Son M S 15 “ “<br />

Emelie <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 12 “ “<br />

E Jane <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 7 “ Utah<br />

Clara R <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 4 “ “<br />

Rosa E <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 1 “ “<br />

And<br />

Census Place Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> Self M M 35 bn England<br />

Mary A <strong>Plant</strong> Wife F M 33 “ “<br />

John H <strong>Plant</strong> Son M S 12 “ “<br />

Joseph W <strong>Plant</strong> Son M S 9 “ Utah<br />

Eliza <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 7 “ “<br />

Catherine <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 4 “ “<br />

Anne M <strong>Plant</strong> Dau F S 2 “ “<br />

Enough confirmation to tie the families together.<br />

Ship Cynosure<br />

Date of Departure 30 th May 1863<br />

Port of Departure Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 19 th July 1863<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Included in the passenger list was<br />

William <strong>Plant</strong> age 59 born 1804<br />

Ship William Tapscott<br />

Date of Departure 11 th April 1859<br />

Port of Departure Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 13 May 1859<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Extract from the journal of one of the passengers:<br />

“On Monday 11 th April 1859 we set sail for the land of America. We sailed on Board the Tapscott an old<br />

sailing vessel.<br />

Our journey was at times pleasant but sickness came and with it came death and two were consigned to a<br />

watery grave. We also had some storms but landed safely at New York, 13 th May 1859. We then travelled by<br />

steamer and rail, 2000 miles until we reached Florence, 25 th May 1859.<br />

We were then made ready for our journey across the plains, a distance of a thousand miles. The company<br />

composed of sixty wagons.<br />

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On 18 th September 1859 we arrived all well in the village of Great Salt Lake. Our train was led into the city<br />

by a two wheel covered cart, drawn by a small white ox..<br />

Included in the Passenter list was:<br />

Ship Colarado<br />

Ann <strong>Plant</strong> age 47 born 1812<br />

Date of Departure 12 th July 1871<br />

Port of Departure Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 25 th July 1871<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Extract from the Voyage notes:<br />

“The steamship Colarado sailed from Liverpool on 12 th July 1871, calling at Queenstown to collect some<br />

passengers, finally arriving in New York on 25 th July. Onward passage to Salt Lake City was completed on<br />

4 th August.<br />

Included in the Passenger List was:<br />

EL <strong>Plant</strong> age 40 born 1831<br />

WKP note – This could be the same as recorded in the 1880 US Census at Keysville, Davis, Utah as follows:<br />

Edward L <strong>Plant</strong> Self M 56 Doctor of Medicine born England<br />

Elenor <strong>Plant</strong> Wife M 25 Keeping House “ “<br />

Phebe L <strong>Plant</strong> D S 6 “ Utah<br />

Selina M <strong>Plant</strong> D S 4 “ “<br />

Mary E <strong>Plant</strong> D S 4m “ “<br />

Wm H <strong>Plant</strong> S S 13 “ England<br />

Mary Ann Wife M 33 Keeping House “ “<br />

Henry Oswal <strong>Plant</strong> S S 2 “ Utah<br />

Ship Manhattan<br />

Edward had two wives and families<br />

Date of Departure 22 nd September 1869<br />

Port of Departure Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 7 th October 1869<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Notes relative to Voyage:<br />

“Steamship Manhatton, off Queenstown 8pm 23 rd September 1869.<br />

Up to the present we have had a strong head wind. About nine-tenths of the passengers are seasick.”<br />

Included in the Passenger List was<br />

Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> age 26 born 1843<br />

Mary <strong>Plant</strong> age 21 born 1848<br />

Henry <strong>Plant</strong> age 1 born 1869<br />

WKP note – The 1880 US Census shows the following:<br />

Census Place Salt Lake City, Utah<br />

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Joseph <strong>Plant</strong> Self M 35 Labourer born England<br />

Mary A <strong>Plant</strong> Wife M 33 Keeping House “ “ (mother bn France)<br />

John H <strong>Plant</strong> Son S 12 “ “<br />

Joseph W <strong>Plant</strong> Son S 9 “ Utah<br />

Eliza <strong>Plant</strong> Dau S 7 “ “<br />

Catherine <strong>Plant</strong> Dau 4 “ “<br />

Anne M <strong>Plant</strong> Dau 2 “ “<br />

Ship Nevada<br />

Date of Departure 10 th July 1873<br />

Port of Departure Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 23 rd July 1873<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Included in the Passenger List was:<br />

Cornelius <strong>Plant</strong> age 17 born 1856<br />

WKP note – No record can be found of a Cornelius <strong>Plant</strong> in the 1880 US Census.<br />

Assuming that his date of birth in the Mormon records of 1856 is correct he could, based on the 1871 Census,<br />

be either:<br />

a/ The son of Thomas & Martha <strong>Plant</strong> living at Leftwich, Cheshire<br />

b/ The son of Edward Charlotte <strong>Plant</strong> living at Kimberworth, Yorks.<br />

Both the above are missing from the UK 1881 Census.<br />

Ship Wyoming<br />

Date of Departure 21 st August 1886<br />

Port of Departture Liverpool<br />

Date of Arrival 31 st August 1886<br />

Port of Arrival New York<br />

Notes on Voyage<br />

“The steamship Wyoming sailed from Liverpool on Saturday 21 st August 1886. The company arrived in New<br />

York on the 31 st . Forty-five of the emigrants were detained there on pretended charges of pauperism. Finally<br />

all were permitted to continue their journey, except a woman and three children who were sent back to<br />

England. The rest of the company left New York 21 st September and travelled over the Baltimore and Ohio<br />

and the Denver and Rio Grande railroads to Utah arriving in Salt Lake City, 27 th September 1886.<br />

Included in the Passenger List was:<br />

Cecil <strong>Plant</strong> age 15 born 1871<br />

WKP note – There is a possibility that Cecil was the Step-son of Anthony & Charlotte Godbehere living in<br />

1881 at Halsbrook, Belper. Cecil was born at Marborough, Yorkshire and his mother was born at Boltonupon-Dearne.<br />

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